Lately, I've been feeling like the biggest loser out there.
22, still a virgin. Only have a associates degree. I got the CompTIA A+ and Network+ certification. Still living with his parents. But I still can't find a god dam job. Is there a better chance of me getting a job if I move out of New York?
I still got loans to pay, I don't even have money to move outta my parent's place. Damit, I spend like all my time playing computer games or applying to more jobs that I see on career builder and craiglist.
Noone wants to hire you if you don't have experience. Well how am I suppose to get any experience if noone wants to give me any? I already did internship for free so I'm not doing it again...
My life is crap and boring. I need to get a job, and i need to move out. Then get laid. I don't drink, i don't smoke. I hardly have any friends. I feel like such a complete loser. I was that kid in high school that everyone would make fun of and beat around. One time a group of kids came outta nowhere and pick, then threw me in a trash can. My life is to empty...
I can't stand my mother anymore. She's always bitching about this or that. I just want her to fucking shut up and leave me alone. I desperately need a decent paying job so i can move out. Been on many interviews but noone wants to hire me.
Only place that offered me a job was circuit city, but i refuse to work for 8 dollars a hour... I should get at least 13 a hour...
I'm valedictorian of my shitty 2 year college but my father has never in my life gone to any of my graduations since elementary school. Like i'm some unwanted kid. I feel like shit.
Yesterday I spent all day playing a mmorpg. Had a argument with my mother and slammed the door in her face. Only thing I do enjoy in my shitty life is anime and video games. I know I can't fix my problems. All I can do is rant about them, and hope I get a job so I can move out.
Get that 8 bucks/hour job. Work there for 4 months. You'll get to know people + gain experience. It also helps you stay out of home so your mother cannot complain.
The only reason I went to school in the first place is to get out of my old job. Which was gamestop and it was 8 dollars a hour. If i wanted 8 dollars a hour, i would of stayed at gamestop.
Sorry but I just can't do 8 dollars an hour after getting an associates... sspecially retail. Retail is so horrible that I think any retail employee deserves at least 10 a hour for what they put up with. But sadly everyone in retail is underpaid except managers.
Have you considered going back to school and getting a Bachelor's degree?
another new yorker here. i have a BA and im back in school for something useful cause frankly a liberal arts BA is worth less than nothing. if its a viable option for you, yes, get the fuck out of ny. you arent going anywhere if you dont have any connections.
Just to reaffirm what was already said. While a liberal arts BA is worth less than nothing, a mere Associate's degree is almost worse than just a HS diploma. It shows you wasted 2 years learning something that isn't worth knowing, and you did it half assed by not even getting a 4 year degree. There is no way in hell you are going to earn 13 an hour in this city when the country is like this. At this moment, you are not qualified to do anything above retail. I don't care what other skills you have, in this city, someone else can do it better, and they have qualifications to prove it. Get out of NY. I have a friend in Louisiana who makes over 50k a year watching youtube all day at a telephone company. In any non-urban city you can probably get a decent computer job just based on the fact you know enough about a computer to post on this board.
OP here,
I would get a BA, but no money and no more loans. My parents are poor fucks that live in the projects. I even paid for my own computer back when I used to work at burger kings.
While I was doing my internship, I learned that the network administrator there doesn't have any sort of degree. He only started out with a A+ certification on his first job. And eventually learned his stuff along the way without getting another certification. He eventually became a network administrator.
What makes me sick is that some teachers with a masters in computers don't even know how to build a fucking computer. Sure they can talk about it and write massive essays and take tests blindfolded, but they never touched the inside of their own computer. Had this teacher who would talk about cisco routers. He was a awesome speaker and can talk for hours on cisco. But when we ask him questions on how to configure a cisco router or subnetting, he won't know crap.
It's sick how some schools give masters to people even tho they don't know crap about their own computers. I hate how this world runs on degrees. This is one reason why I just want to get into the field to learn instead of attending more classes from stupid teachers who don't know their head from their ass.
I want to be someone who can do the job. Not just have the papers that say I can do it. Having the papers don't mean crap.
I got a interview on monday. Hope it goes well. This is a 2nd interview with some place that I already went to a week ago. sigh...
Jobs are overrated, the life you think you are missing is very overrated.
”Having the papers don't mean crap”
except it does. you need to change that mentality right now, or you are going to end up in a noose in a few years because youll still be complaining about how the world isnt fair and you cant get a job, except youll have even less money.
if you dont have connections, you need the qualifications, its that simple.
op here, sorry but that's not gonna change how I think. The only reason why these teachers with "masters" are teaching is because they can't do the things that their papers say they are qualify for.
Sure they got a masters, they probably got the jobs too for only a week before being fired because they don't do their job and they don't know how to do it. So they are forced to go into teaching which is less pay.
Noone in their right mind that can really do their job, would want to teach for a hell lot less pay. ESPECIALLY someone who can configure a cisco routers and subnet a network. The only reason would be you can't actually do it when needed. I'm not looking to be some faggot who can write the best essay in the world but can't do what he writes.
You make think the world is all about papers to bs your way into jobs. But that one network administrator I met in my internship, tells me otherwise. You'll get the job for sure with papers. But holding the job is a different story.
>>10
No matter how hard you believe that having a degree doesn't matter, it isn't going to change the way the world actually works. Enjoy your delusions.
>>9 That's not how it worked for me. I wasted 3 years getting my qualifications just to find no jobs which required them. Ended up getting a job which required none, and then every job since that valued the experience more than the degree. So university only bought me a 3 year setback on my life.
>>12
Not everything you can do in college is actually useful. Look at liberal arts.
>>12 and where do you live? keep in mind thats a huge factor. this guy lives in ny, and i can tell you with 100% confidence it most certainly does matter here. you NEED connections or qualifications, in that order. a connection will get you a job no matter how worthless you are. if youve got no hookups i dont care how talented you are, you need qualifications or welcome to minimum wage.
>>10
If that's what you believe then why are you on this board? Your personal opinion is not going to change the hiring process in this city. Employers (rightfully) assume that everyone in the city is retarded, and you need the qualifications (or the friend) to prove to them that you're not. Why? Cause there are plenty of people that have those qualifications and thus there is no reason to hire the person who doesn't. Don't you know the state that this country is in right now? Qualified people are -losing- jobs in droves.
>>12
OK, well you know that's the classic catch-22 right? Experience is always what matters most, everyone already knows that. No employer -wants- to hire anyone without experience, but you obviously can't get experience if no one hires you. That's what degrees and certifications are for. If you managed to start a career without a degree or a friend to get you in the door, count your lucky stars because you're a rare exception.
fuck me!
I know what you mean. People wave around degrees like they're treasures, but in reality degrees don't mean much these days, what with everyone and their mother having one. It's the experience and connections you make in college that's really important, the idea of living on your own and experiencing a taste of the outside world.
Anyway, another internship or two might be good for you, regardless of whether they're paid or not; experience is experience, and nobody really cares if it says on your resume that you got money for it or didn't get money for it. The important thing is to keep in contact with those people, and ask them to look for job openings for you. Be ready to travel if you need to; sometimes the good paying jobs won't be within arm's reach, but it's definitely worth a plane ticket and a cheap apartment if it means you can afford to live on your own. If it means doing odd jobs here and there to raise some money, so be it. Youth lasts longer than people think, and spending a year painting houses and fixing/building computers for people to save up cash is worth it when you finally can afford to live on your own.
>>18 thats exactly why degrees matter. because everyone else has them which means you need one too. not having one is like not having a high school diploma, it means youre a failure in life. you cant get anywhere without the experience or connections, which OP doesnt have.
he needs to go back to school and start at step 1. again keep in mind what city he's in, being out of school for so long he'd honestly be lucky to even get another unpaid internship. if he really is such a loser and unlikeable, those internships probably wouldnt even do him much good. socially awkward people dont network well.
vocational school might be a good idea.
op here...
I made a new resolution. I won't be emo anymore and cry about my shitty life. I'm gonna mold and shape my own life!
On monday, the company I went on a interview for made me take two tests from http://www.proveit.com/. One was a hardware test. Another was a dell customer service test.
Eariler today, I got a call from the same company I went to for a interview on monday... They called me to set up a 3rd interview with them tomorrow morning. They said I did really well on those tests.
Everyone who says I need go to back to school...
Watch me land this job!
I may not have tons of connections, I may not have written a 50 page essay or taken as much bullshit classes as BA grads, but I do have something that most BA grads don't. That's real experience and skills. I am not in any way inferior to any BA grad that got a paper but no certifications.
No more will I meet in bs class with bs teachers teaching bs stuff that they've never even done before in real life. My time to learn and get experience is now. I don't want theories. I want the actual workload. This is the new me. I am not going to be emo over my life. I'm going to shape it and keep making it better and better!
>>20 good for you. youre lucky you were able to find a company who was willing to take a chance on you. dont fuck it up and good luck.
Don't take just any job. I'm working at a Whataburger and I'm miserable. I am a fry-jockey, shoot me.
Congratulations OP!
Its not easy to try turn your life around that that. I'm very happy for you that you were able to take control of your life.
Good luck job hunting!!