It has come to everyones attension that 4-ch has gotten new moderators, and
people http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1148695571/
are http://4-ch.net/iaa/kareha.pl/1149103032/5-
not http://4-ch.net/net/kareha.pl/1148676056/
pleased http://4-ch.net/net/kareha.pl/1149132068/
It's OK to be new, it's OK to experiment - but only thus far. However, let me break it to you: If you're a mod, I don't like you.
And Yes, the last two threads I pointed to just mysterously dissapeared.
You see, we are in a love/hate relationship. We don't want mods to have to exist, but we sometimes don't want to be without you.
So here is what I think:
And please don't sign your doings. "Haha - got that spammer. Do not want spam", you forget, you shouldn't exist.
Yes, you heard right. Moderation is a shitty work, with no credit or attribution. That's why I don't want to be a MODD#withtripcode
But what about the irrevelevant tanasinn posts you ask. Should it not be deleted? Or at least permasaged?. We, the users, have the power to sage. We make sure shitty threads and shitty posts die for you, so leave them alone please.
For the tl;dr Rule of thumb: Unless we whine about it, you do nothing.
Oh and old mods, you don't have to listen to non of what I sayd. You did a great job. Thank you!
The first is a reasonable complaint, if somewhat clumsily delivered, and was resolved. The second is just generic complaining without any substance, and might for all I know just be a reference to the first thread. Since the last two don't exist, I can't really say anything about them. I don't memorize thread numbers, so I have no idea what they might have been. I have seen nobody sign any spam deletion, except in cases where the amount was large enough to require a quick explanation to passersby. Unless it was on a board I don't frequent, that is.
Basically, I'm not really seeing any of it. As far as I know most people follow something much like the guidelines you said. If you have any more specific examples, or could tell us what those two /net/ threads were about, do tell.
PS: That's not what sage is for. On an image board with a bump limit of 20, you can use sage as a means of user moderation. But that doesn't work here. Threads don't stop bumping until they end. Sage is for posting replies without distubring the rest of the board by bumping. It's a courtesy, not an offensive act.
I didn't expect you do remember the threads in /net. I posted the links to make aware of that threads are dissapearing.
One of the net threads contained a link to a type of forum dedicated to something wierd, titled "anyone been here?". The original post was first deleted for spam and thread permasaged. The last posts were criticising that deletion, one encourageing the original poster to repost the link, another just stating "idiot moderator alert". Deletion was also signed.
Second thread I never actually got to read, and therefor should probably not be in that list in my first post. However my rss feed catched it as titled "Any tanasinners out there", containing body "Best religion in my opinion." and AA, with two replies. I find this deletion uncalled for, even though it's rather DQNish for net. Bad threads die, and besides tanasinn religion is still internet culture.
> Sage is for posting replies without distubring the rest of the board by bumping. It's a courtesy, not an offensive act.
This we agree on. My point is that threads people aren't interested in are let die, and sage is used to reply without letting them live. Exception perhaps being endlessly bumped threads like "Find KAMI in your ID"-thread, which I agree permasage was a good decision after 1500 bumps.
I wish to say I didn't mean to be to hash im my first post. Giving reason for deletion is good, but be aware it can come out wrong. Also I appreciate all good moderation efforts, I know much of it gets unoticed.
> It's OK to be new, it's OK to experiment - but only thus far.
Now I know that I should wait for an inexplicable thread to develop before permasage'ing it. I am not proud.
Well, I am proud, but that's beside the point.
> One of the net threads contained a link to a type of forum dedicated to something wierd, titled "anyone been here?".
Oh, that one. That was some pretty blatant advertising for someone's site, and while it wasn't your average automated spam, moderators will be pretty trigger happy with that stuff.
I'll agree that deleting that thread outright might be excessive.
I'm one of the new moderators, I agree with you on most accounts, please continue to give feedback as this site is still growing. It's very important to feel like you can say anything (within the law lol) on this site, so I welcome this kind of talk. Before this site, I was a user of world2ch and 2ch, so I was surprised by the amount of moderation here. I think usually it is most interesting to let things run their own course, and the users decide in the end. Replies to a crappy thread can make it awesome in the end afterall, right?
>>6
That really was a worthless thread.
>>3
I posted the tanasinn thread, I put it in net because I felt it genuinely belonged in Net CULTure, however, I did not know at that time that the board followed the teachings of the Elitist Superstructure. Silly me, guess I should just lurk more and simply not even make an attempt at contributing any form of content to this site, or interacting with its users since it is quite obvious I'm not cool enoug to contribute, still not sure which boards are the same way, but it is fortunate that I am not interested in very many of them. It would be best for the sake of these boards to just ban me from posting in anywhere but /dokyun/.
The best part is later posting in another thread in the general that had pointed mine out complaining about. I asked what about the sure that made it so kuso in the eyes of the moderation and now, I can no longer locate neither the thread or the post, hmm, such a sound decision warrants nonconfrontationalism? Sorry, but I think that's just a tad odd.
5 to 1 says this post if not this thread gets mysteriously deleted, am I a betting man or not?
1) Moderators are not to be seen, or heard in the public eye. Delete, permasage etc as necessary. Report to other moderators or myself if unsure.
2) Users keep sensible topics on sensible boards. Stupidity, faggatory and asshattery goes and stays in /dqn.
3) Users and moderators alike are welcome to provide anonymous feedback ITT on how moderation is being handled.
4) If you don't like it, leave. If you do like it, stay. All are welcome to stay or leave at your discretion. If you are unsatisfied with how something related to the site is/was handled, talk about it on this board.
If you asked a question in a coherent fashion, I am sure we would answer to the best of our abilities. As it is now, I can barely parse your post, which I think is talking about some sort of question in http://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1148695571/, which I can't see, unless it's the "comedy corean" one, which really isn't much to go on.
PS:
> 5 to 1 says this post if not this thread gets mysteriously deleted, am I a betting man or not?
A little paranoid, are we? Why on earth would we first discuss these matters with users in a thread, and then suddenly delete it in some sort of cover-up operation?
>A little paranoid, are we? Why on earth would we first discuss these matters with users in a thread, and then suddenly delete it in some sort of cover-up operation?
He's not deleting it because the Elitist Superstructure has a use for you. You should be happy.
Before this thread continues into random whine, I just wanted to say I'm pleased with the replies from moderators in this thread. Keep up the good work.
>>7
You are cool. You can stay here!
developers etc..