Maybe I'm wrong, but it's occured to me that the culture in Japan towards anime is the same as the culture in America. Except perhaps the American culture is wilder. Groups of "geeks" are usually the people who are into it. Trying to make prove or disprove that it is more than just an activity for us social outcasts is to try to make us feel better about our current miserable dispositions.
It's not bad, being a geek.
what
It is Japanese.
I am surprised because there is a person who knows fate also in USA.
Do the be known of sentences of Fate/Stay Night and because a lot of big words not so used are being used long even by me Japanese, no do be knowns serious.
However, the opening Movie is quite good-looking.
^^ what the hell? I have no idea what you're trying to say.
Don't bump threads just to post shit in them, please.
>>3
even though that was clarely gibberish i some how understud it
very few of us have played the original games (tsukihime and fate). they're very hard to translate. both of the anime series have been translated, so we've learned of fate and tsukihime through them.
>>4
He is surprised there are fans of Fate/Stay Night outside of Japan. The text used in the game is complex and inclusion of a lot of rarely used words makes it difficult to follow even for a native speaker. The opening animation is very high quality.
Speaking of otaku culture,
anyone else like A－BOYS - 奴レボリューション.mp3?
Rapping about long-distance lenses, idols, cosplay, lolicon, kamehameha!
It's a bit hard to find...
>>1 If only we could have a gf it would be a prefect world
Western "otaku" are very different to japanese otaku. Japanese otaku are more shy and very rude i think. they push around you in lines and in crowded stores and never saying sorry. also they like strange things.
i think US otakus are more open about it, like its more acceptable (sort of). dunno i hate how some people are way to hardcore in it, and like if they dont know something they try to guess what it is and sound all smart.
like i was at AX this year, and watching the music videos, and there was a music video for Fate/stay night and tsukihime (had game clips too from their games), and like theses nerds in the back didnt know what it was, and guess it was like Guilty gear or Fatal Fury, and i was like "wtf?", seriously please dont say anything or making assuptions if u dont really know what it is.
anyways, i try to keep my otaku-ness down becuase i know that the people i hang out with wouldnt want it to come out... i dont look like im otaku (cuz i dress nice and stuff), but i know a lot of animes just because i watch them during my free time and dl whenever im away (i have this habit that i must dl something while im out or i feel like i wasted good time to dl soemthing).
>>11
different level of "otaku-ness" and cultural background i guess...
but it's not it's not entirely rude, more of shy and afraid of peps, since most of otaku aren't treated nicely by so are called "normal"
>>12
lol, guess you're right..
and btw,being an otaku doens't mean that we must look like an otaku, and what does otaku look lie anyway ^_^
just being ourself
I'm curious... Is there such thing as a female otaku in Japan? Because in the U.S. there are also girls who are into anime and stuff. And there's nothing wrong being a fangirl while other "normal" girls don't understand why we're interested in it.
Boy, this reminds me back in jr. high and high school. Thank God I'm out of there.
same goes for girls, there are lots of anime/manga fans among them.
even girl's anime and manga has it own style
>>14 Is there such thing as a female otaku in Japan?
Yes, definitely. Especially yaoi/shounen ai. I walked into the yaoi manga section at a store by accident and there were dozens of awkward geeky looking girls pawing through the boyporn.
"I walked into the yaoi manga section at a store by accident"
Riiight. Whatever, man.
I wanted to buy my girlfriend some manga, and took a month to work up the courage to go into the Shoujo Manga section of our local Kinokuniya Bookstore (San Fransisco, CA, USA). But she's very otaku, and I know many women who are otaku, which is good. I heard the ratio of male/female gamers in the USA was very close to 50/50, too.
I don't like letting people know I'm otaku because kids at my school make fun of me for it. (n_n;) I'm very shy- I suppose I'm a stereotypical otaku with no friends, actually. That's okay though because I always have my anime and manga to come home to and talk with!
Become a REAL OTAKU MAN! Just like me or Internet Alpha Male Daryl Surat!
Tips:
I've seen Densha Otoko and read Welcome to the NHK. (o___o;) I showered this morning if it counts for anything...
I think that in America, "otakus" are more united just by the fact that they're into anime in general. Meanwhile, in Japan otakus are segregated into their own very distinct genres like those who like meganeko or such-and-such anime, and aren't as prone to mingle with others.
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Ikebukuro - Sanctuary of Otaku Girls
A peek into the world of female otaku in japan. Subbed, in two parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAbUISy9F8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJAW0g_X7jg
I found it the little differences in parallel traits interesting. Guys carry their otaku goods in backpacks or shoulderbags, but the girls tote them around in stylish wheeled suitcases. Their cafes put more emphasis on the elegance of the atmosphere than cuteness.
>>18 LIES. Women will always be a minority in gaming. That's just how it is.
>>16
I must admit I find that hot.
Maybe someone who frequents the .jp side of the internet can help me. Is the cosplay culture stuff in Genshiken accurate? Is there really a "Cosplay Code" that people follow?
I don't know specific things about this, but Genshiken is perfectly accurate in most respects.
>>12
if you make up a completely fake anime and start talking about it with your friends at an anime con, some passer-by will be like YEAH I KNOW THAT ONE. works every time. i'm a big fan of pizza delivery super baito!~ robo boy takeshi
>>24
Interesting movies. thank you!
>>24
Yeah, I have a new dream now, to be a male cafè host.
>>24
WHERE ARE THEY FINDING ALL THESE HOT OTAKU
STOP LYING TO ME, JAPAN
>>24
I find it suprising that most of them actually look very decent. It's a lot different than the stereotypical fangirl here.
hello guys... is anyone in there?
No.
Japanese male Otaku like 2d girls and female Otaku like 2d gay men who are in love with other 2d gay men, while American female and male Otaku still want have sex with each other.
The west has furries to make up for this.
furries want to have sex with each other too, but they have to be pretending they're in their TRUE ASTRAL DRAGGYN FORMS
i agree with allot of this but we should get to the real topic. I dont know how many people here are real or fake. I KNOW IM A NERD i never call my self オヌクbecause i know im ヲヌク (if you understood that you are also) I ALSO KNOW THERE IS ALOT OF ANIME I HAVE NEVER SEEN AND I ADMIT IT! i dont care what anyone thinks true (w)otaku are people who love anime to a point that they are hated by average people for it.
i hate trying to find other friends because people are always like "ohh my god i love naruto and inuyasha arnt I soo hardcore" THESE PEOPLE NEED TO REALISE THEY ARE NORMAL AND HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US. they think otaku is someone who likes to watch late night cartoon network WHEN INFACT WE ARE SICK FUCKS WHO GET OFF TO LITTLE ANIME GIRLS AND VOICE ACTORS!!!!!!!
by the way if anyone understood me my email is mamushi_72_sai@yahoo.com
>>40 i've invented a new word for people like you...バカタク
...try to guess what it means.
the word is きもヲタ
>>42 haha that's even funnier ... i'm going to say that all the time now
I think there is a sympathetic wave towards the otaku. I had no opinion but after watching Densha Otoko and Akihabara@deep, I wouldn't mind being an otaku (>3<)
Aa, btw. (>__<) Can someone tell me about the oden can? And umm.. that biscuit looking stick/roll that comes in like a million flavours.
こんにちわ おたく！
>>46 (and everyone else who does this) it's こんにちは, please learn to spell!
Also "otaku" used as slang is usually spelled in katakana. A little trivia: "otaku" means one's own house, which is where otaku spend most of their time! :) Now you know where it came from.
And seriously, who says "desu yo" on a message board?
Of course, all of this is just proving what a major otaku loser I am.
じゃまた。
>>48
Actually, 'otaku' comes from the word they used to address each other on Internet forums. Since everyone you meet on the Internet is a stranger, they used the most polite form of 'you' possible when speaking to each other - 'otaku,' which, as you said, literally means 'one's house.'
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That is just about the dumbest supposed explanation I've ever heard for the word otaku. It's been used long, long before anybody used the internet.
びんちょうタンとアリアがいいよね
What 49 said is right. except that it's not on the net but at comikets. (or conventions like that)
see http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ヲタク
語源としては、彼ら（彼女ら）がアニメ作品などについて会話をする際相手に対する呼称（二人称）を「お宅」とし、「お宅は○○についてどう思う？……お宅は？」と呼び合ったのが始まりという説が有力
>>20
God, I love that podcast
Otaku in north america almost always applies specifically to fans of any manga, anime, or surprisingly even Japanese games. Hence the naming of conventions started with Ota-, and such. However in Japan I understand its more broad and can refer to any kind of nerd. However I think Otaku in Japan more likely involves the overly obbsessed type where there interest invades their personal life to a harful extent. Yet here in North America it refers to any casual fan and I hate it. Half actually watch the classics and are knowledgable about many things anime, and manga and the others prefer to watch anime geared towards children in Japan. They recently had a video in youtube entitled Otaku from America. Many knew what they were talking about. Half were ugly white fat women cosplaying as Inu Yasha characters gawking at Gsshapon machines with Naruto figures. I believe they had a spending allowance from the travelling agency, and the Terebi network that had the sepcial. Those women spent like 1/4 of it on damn Naruto figures.
"OHH I GOT SASUKE!! LETS TRADE!! HYUK HYUK!!"
At the risk of souding shallow, why do most of the female anime fans I've seen look so unattractive? (ie cosplay) This bugs the crap out of me.
because if they are attractive, they fuck men all they want, not anime characters.
no, they really are attractive. or they were. but they've been sitting on their asses watching Inu Yasha for so long that they've become the fat, pale, pimply bitches that they are today.
and the ones that look good are already taken.
the same deal applies to guys.
Hmm well depends, some guys are just too ugly or too cute. Also goes with girls.
>guys are just too ugly
what? we are not girl you know...
オタク=adult friends
I've met some real sexy otaku-girls. well only a few but then again I dont meet many people... :)
I've known a few very attractive 'wotaku' girls. But they were usually highly depressive. And as a wotaku guy, I have no incentive to leave my room to meet them.
i actually agree. I noticed that too. yea i am a girl and watch anime... but i'm married so I have to look good or else my hub would prolly leave me for some other chick... especially since he is older than me and established.. he'd be thinking "why the F am i messing with this retard"
he's not into anime, so he would not be oaky with me sitting on my ass getting fat while eating ho hos and watching naruto.
and yes God... i hate that series too......
gantz = da bomb
raxephon= w00t
kizuna = no guy here would touch that with a 100 foot piece of tin foil wrapped in plastic (that was plain randomness)
Reiteration:
In Japanese society, foreigners are commonly made fun of, rejected, and overall treated in a highly different manner than another Japanese. Japanese people also do not watch a lot of anime at all, nor do they typically read much manga, and "otakus" are commonly rejected and criticized as well.
While I can not speak for everyone, I must say that, as someone who is pursuing Japanese and Asian studies as a major, "otakus" frequently get in the way and are an overall nuisance. Even so, I do not mind them, and have befriended many of them. But when it comes time to get down to business, I'd rather not have that constant fly buzzing around my ear, or bumps in the table as I'm trying to write (speaking figuratively, of course).
I have been studying Japanese for over seven years now. I first started studying by myself, before I moved and took it in school, skipping past the first level. I am now in Japanese III Honors, and taking AP Japanese next year (skipping Japanese IV).
Working at a comic store, there is an infinitesimal door available for you to be able to go to Akiba. Not only would you have to learn the language to get anywhere economically there, but you'd also have to adjust and adapt, which isn't as easy as it sounds. At all.
Furthermore, Japan is an expensive place to live. Expensive. There is also a high demand for housing, as well as the different houses. Since Japan has a government like Britain, it is divided into classes. This is why the rich people normally have big houses, and the average businessman (even if he may be considered highly successful) has an apartment or condominium.
To give you a short walkthrough, you would have to learn the language and culture, starting from before or at the time you start high school. Then you would have to take part in several or many activities which show your eagerness to learn and take part in Japanese and its studies. You would need to keep your GPA up, find a nice college, get accepted, shine more than the other students there, take the college courses (obviously), major in something related to Japanese such as Asian Studies, as well as Japanese in Graduate school. You should also study abroad sometime during college. Then, after all of that, you would have to find a way of getting the money for a ticket to Japan, living expenses, transportation, etc. as well as getting to know the area immediately, seeing as how you'll need a place to live.
While you may think that just because you have a strong will towards going to Japan, there are many obstacles that stand in your way, and most of them depend on time, and then academics and money. Furthermore, a great amount of logic and common sense is needed, as well as flexibility.
Even though you want to go to Japan, there are far too many things that you won't expect. You obviously haven't even begun to scratch the surface of even the slightest knowledge of what Japan actually is yet, and, even if you do manage to make it there, the chances of you leading a better life both depend on your past actions (college, etc.) and availability. Japan is very busy, very busy. Most businessmen work so much, they basically commute home.
Therefore, if you truly want to live in Akiba, you better hope you have family ties there. Especially considering your attitude towards learning the language. When you take on this objective, there is no room nor time for being pompous.
I typed that up to someone a little while ago, but it basically answers many questions people ask about Otakus and Japan.
korean eats a dog and a cat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UCh9dMfuaE
70 So does Jap, Chinese(remember where saars came from...), and god who knows people... so deal with it.
>>72
I just posted here a couple days ago. Prior to which I never even clicked on a single link listed under discussion. So no, and you have to reason to act like I have been here for a while.
who gives a shit if its a dog or a cow
its all meat
im vegan and watching that video makes me hate the fucking douchebags filming it
if factory farming is stopped in the US, then MAYBE MAYBE we have something to say to the koreans
otherwise shut the fuck up, eat ur wendys and jerk off
Christ, people, stop falling for the Japanese anti-Korea trolls. They just run through and dump random links about Koreans, they're not here to discuss anything with you.
Ignore them, because they are ignoring you.