how can the real otaku get to akiba (132)

1 Name: マムシ_72さい : 2006-12-17 02:57 ID:S9WNftza

allright this is where im desperate. i work at a comic book store which sells anime manga and figurines aswell. im 16 but i need to get to akiba Its my only hope for a happy life! by boss was telling me how unlikely it is and it hurts me soo much to hear that.for most of us hardcore people it wouldent take long to pick up japanese because we already know alot of the basics.what can I or we do?

also my language teacher said I could never be accepted in japanese socioty my responce was "i never expected to"

83 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-03-18 18:38 ID:Heaven

>>82
welcome to the internets, enjoy your stay

84 Name: Barachem : 2007-03-18 20:06 ID:Uwb7eQ5x

For me as a PHD in physics there's a good way in to japan: finding work there as a post-doc in physics.
It'll get costs and housing covered, but most likely i will have to work quite hard anyway to be bothered going to Akihabara if i would work in Tokyo, anywahere else and Akihabara looks more like a vacation to me.

@ opening poster: With 16 years, no diploma and near to no knowledge of japan, its language and its society, i fear you won't land any job there and get shipped back to whatever country you came from.
If you find some way to stay, it's most likely because yakuza recruit you to ship illegal stuff or because you end up as some homeless hobo.

Just have more patience, learn japanese, learn japan's culture and get a diploma that has some worth in japan AND the country you live in.
I recommend taking up physics, chemistry or any other science subject, because that's global stuff and opens up access to many countries, of which japan.

Anyway, good luck.

85 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-03-18 21:47 ID:Heaven

>>82 THATS RIGHT FAGG0T, USE THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE
excite us.

86 Name: Kenji : 2007-03-20 22:58 ID:lVSSin4x

>>85
Well if it isn't yet another decrement to society.
How kind of you to take part in this discussion.
However, if you had bothered to read 84's comments, you would have seen that they were very similar to mine.
That's right, run along now, little tyke.

87 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-03-21 02:48 ID:Heaven

Everyone knows the opening poster is a dumbass, but that doesn't mean we can mock him without being wapelitists.

Remember, the only thing separating マムシ_72さい and Kenji is that one of them has better grammar.

88 Name: Kenji : 2007-03-21 05:01 ID:lVSSin4x

>>87
So you just said we should be elitists, and then complimented me.
Why should we be elitists? Wtf.

89 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-03-21 12:30 ID:Heaven

>>88

You may have better grammar, but I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.

90 Name: Rana : 2007-03-21 15:15 ID:AxtwMFqi

Hey there!
I'm 25. 7 years ago I moved to Japan after learning some of the language (I didn't learn any Kanji, just Hiragana, Katakana and speaking). I went there on my own, got a job as an English teacher, and was pretty easily accepted into society. Don't listen to what people say about being stared at or isolated - I'm still an English teacher with a husband and a daughter, and from being here for a while, my language has picked up and I feel like I belong here.
I've always had a mega-obsession with Japan and anime and the music and cosplay and everything, and trust me it doesn't even get boring after you've been here a while! (Hey, 7 years and I'm not bored)
I suggest you take out a loan or something to rent a cheap flat (luxury isn't neccessary, right? )
Go for it!
Good Luck!
^_^

oh by the way: Only problem is, they often don't get sarcasm! some do, but when my husband laughs and says ''You can't use chopsticks very well'' I say ''Oh, and you're so good with a kinfe and fork'' I find myself hilarious, but he just looks puzzled X(

91 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-03-21 16:32 ID:REuQ8S/R

My brother and I are part chinese(dad is half azn) my bro lived there for a while and they loved him, so don't Iisten to these fucks. im sorry but I dont approve of going to japan for anime, nihon is not cartoons.

92 Name: Kenji : 2007-03-21 22:53 ID:lVSSin4x

>>89
"...but that doesn't mean we can mock him without being wapelitists."

93 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-03-22 02:56 ID:Heaven

omg you made a joudan out of his inferior gaijin grammer ! you are so sugoi !!

94 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-03-26 02:37 ID:Heaven

This thread just gets more and more hilarious. Thanks for keeping me entertained.

95 Name: マムシ_72さい : 2007-04-02 04:37 ID:K01KoCzZ

wow. i cant beleive my thread grew this much.

96 Name: マムシ_72さい : 2007-04-02 04:58 ID:K01KoCzZ

ok ok i have bad grammar. thats because I bare;y knew english untill 4th grade. my dads an spanish teacher at a spanish immersion school. i was pulled out because of my english deficiencies. its a bad excuse tho I guess i just suck.

I returned to this place because I was depressed and was fucking up at school again.im usually on 4chan.org. I need a reason to work otherwise I get nowhere. It freaks me out that I got all of these responces.

I guess i feel a little bit more confident now. but I still feel like its imposible (mou muri po po po -- lol) to the positive peope thanks for your help. to the negative people thanks for your input.

97 Name: american otaku : 2007-04-06 19:18 ID:RkcxwBr6

wtf... yeah I am fodder for you dumbasses by self proclaiming myself as an ameri-can OTAkU. so fucking what.

check it kenji. since you are so smart, you should realize that most people here don't give a damn about all your blah blah blah about:

whine voice I have liiiiiiiiived in Japan and IIIIIII have learned over such and such amount of nihongo and I reeeeeeeeefused to sit here and let you tell him and.... just SHUT UP ALREADY.

you said you didn't mean to brag while you did it at the end of all your fucking whining and bragging snort

someone said that in Japan they are obsessed with western culture. and damn it kenji you know it too you dumbass. i been there and you know what. THEY ARE!!! YOU KNOW IT. the salary man... disappearing if you read hiragana times. why... trends, subcultures, and the nail gettin hammered down is going to the bye-bye

No i dun speak nihongo and you know what... I don't feel weird about it either. so save me from your stupid ass but but IIIIIIIIIIIII preach it to someone who cares.

ALL OTAKUS SHOULD GO TO JAPAN. JUST LIKE PILGRIMS MAKE PILGRIMAGES TO CHURCH, SHIRES, COUNTRIES OR WHATEVER. JUST BECAUSE ANIME AND MANGA IS NOT A SANCTIONED RELIGION BY A GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE TO TREAT IT LIKE SOME WEIRD THING?

that thinking is just as bad as right wing elitist which, some of you sound like.

keep the faith and for those who dun wanna hear the truth then cut your ears off.

on a side note. besides my harsh feedback. I agree that people shouldn't go over there with no job and or anything. that's just as bad as going over thinking like fucking kenji. who prolbably thinks he is japanese himself

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

you wanna japanese wife kenji? go to Roppongi... it ain't all peaches in Japan you know

98 Name: マムシ_72さい : 2007-04-07 06:03 ID:zP1L6v/8

I dont want to be a jerk but Im in japanese III at a local college. and Im only in highschool. also I tend to refuse to relate with people who use random japanese such as "kawaii and sugoi"even the word otaku being used to self describe angers me and I prefer the word anime nerd. I really cant stand It when someone claims to be "otaku" as they are doing somethinf dating someone or smoking pot. (><) pisses me off.

99 Name: sage : 2007-04-08 00:57 ID:Heaven

sage

100 Name: sage : 2007-04-08 00:57 ID:Heaven

sage

101 Name: sage : 2007-04-08 00:57 ID:Heaven

>>99 >>100

Same person.

102 Name: ナッチ : 2007-04-10 11:12 ID:Pj1gkCKl

>>98はすごいかわいいですよね!

103 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-04-10 15:34 ID:Heaven

2007/4/8 akihabara.tokyo.japan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okeq0uuldy0

105 Name: american otaku : 2007-04-12 05:53 ID:EWH/T1X1

>>98
... good for you. and you know that's like an American whining saying... oh i hate when foreigners come over here and say they are b-boys. they should just say that they like to breakdance or listen to hip-hop. with the thinking that everyone is saying here, we might as well all call ourselves lame, because no doubt, someone is always going to think that we are trying to be something we aren't. even using the word nerd has it's own connotations.

so yeah, Otaku is a word that has been through the ringer. but it's here to stay, whether the actual meaning is now what we use it for.

ass = donkey

ass = someone's behind... they don't match do they?

shit happens

106 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-04-13 12:53 ID:1w/sVDI+

That's more like a common mis-spelling of "arse".

But eiither way it's language perverting.

107 Name: american otaku : 2007-04-14 12:15 ID:EWH/T1X1

exactly ?__?

108 Name: マムシ_72さい : 2007-04-15 21:39 ID:TqRKSywA

most people who use the word otaku are half assed anime fans who obviously dont fit the steryo type. there are few people who acctually went through the teasing ridicule and social problems real nerd go through. the word otaku is acctually just a stronger version of nerd in japan

109 Name: american otaku : 2007-04-17 00:20 ID:EWH/T1X1

i guess so.... but i just refuse to call myself a nerd. i am very social 'n shit... i dun like nerds too much either. but I have been into anime since i was about 5 (speed racer, tranzor Z, voltron and shit) i'm in my 30's now so it's been a hella long time.

but see the thing is this. since we have adopted the name Otaku, i actually appreciate t he fact that cooler peoples can be Otaku's too. cuz i dun consider myself a big nerd, i go out and shit with cute ass people. tho i know i put that long as definition there, i think what people think Otaku was, should change.

i'm indecisive about the whole damned thing. it does piss me off when people who have only watched 1 anime call themselves an Otaku, but on the other hand I dun like ugly ass people calling themselves an otaku just to belong to something and wear it as a badge of honor either.

actually I guess for once ya'll could help me out on this.

listens

110 Name: american otaku : 2007-04-17 00:22 ID:EWH/T1X1

and if you a dumb ass don't try to get all whiney on me... i'll just flame forever and ever

111 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-07-22 19:02 ID:Heaven

>>71

>Japanese people also do not watch a lot of anime at all, nor do they typically read much manga.

THATS NOT WHAT THE INTERNET TOLD ME! >:(

112 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-02 20:54 ID:6W9noNi7

I am very late in on this topic, but yes, a lot of what has been said by the intelligent people in this topic is true.

HERE IS THE REALITY:
If you are totally obsessed with anime, etc, it is better to stay in america. You will not be accepted in Japanese society. Otakus are considered even bigger fags in Japan by the general public than they are in america. It is no wonder why most otaku in japan can't get women and are social outcasts.

If you do go to Japan and think "well I don't care if the general population accepts me, I just want the otakus, maids, etc to accept me". Well, that won't happen. Fact of the matter is, the anime otaku in japan hate gaijin even more than the general population does. They don't want you coming into their zone, their world, and fagging it all up. Most foreigners act as assholes in Japan, and as such, all of us foreigners are stereotyped as such, regardless if you are being nice or not.

The only group that will really accept you are the japanese that are obsessed with american things such as elvis, american music, american lifestyle, american cars, etc, etc. Basically the exact opposite of what you are.

113 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-02 22:05 ID:H2ZzkpHu

>>112

I would never discourage someone from traveling. You write broad, stereotypical generalizations, although I know where you're coming from and a lot of what you say is valid.

Even so, I would recommend >>1 to go to Japan and find out for himself how the Japanese view him. I don't know >>1 in the slightest, how incredibly preposterous it would be for me to evaluate his ability to "be accepted in Japanese society"? The best I can do is suggest to him where and how to get the cheapest tickets, and hope he type up a report on his findings.

Then I can make fun of him, if what he types is amusing.
Good luck >>1!

114 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-02 22:28 ID:H2ZzkpHu

Actually I think you'll find that many people in Japan are interested in Anime/Japanese pop culture AND foreign stuff. You could find plenty of people to have conversations with, if you're the type of person who likes to have conversations.

And since when does visiting/living in Japan imply "becoming Japanese"? Do you study German, and move to Germany with the intention of becoming a German? That's just stupid. You wouldn't do that with any country. Maybe with a similar, very cosmopolitan country, with a common language, but even then it can be difficult...

I wonder why people are so fixated with this detail? I think it must simply amount to a racial issue. Because Japanese look different than many foreigners, and on top of that a long, very insular history, they're "orientalised" and made remote and somewhat mystical, a little de-humanised. Yes, they are Japan, they are very insular compared to America. Foreigners can't just walk in and >>1 knows that, and rightfully doesn't care, they're also human beings, however, and they're also world leaders in a globalised and interconnected world, and no, they are not samurai. I think the situation would be similar if a white guy wanted to move to Abuja, to "get in on" Nigerian culture. I think actually this guy would have a much harder time in Nigeria than >>1 in Japan, but I'm just guessing.

Perhaps it's because Americans, British, and French are so used to the foreign presence of members of their former colonies, that they can't imagine the reverse situation.

Increasingly, Japan has more and more foreigners living and working there who have carved out some place for themselves as a "resident foreigner". A kind of condition that millions across the globe live in. Many of these people are satisfied, since they remain there, and some of them marry and start families there as well. Many of them make friends and have neighbors who they speak with. Their Gaijin, definitely, they'll almost certainly never "be Japanese" no matter how good their mastery of the language/culture, but Who would expect them to be? How can you expect to be Japanese if you don't have a Japanese past? It's stupid to be telling >>1 or anyone else these things everybody knows.

115 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-03 02:10 ID:NlIn/umG

If it were really true that Japanese people didn't read much manga, the bookstores over there wouldn't have such large manga sections.

116 Name: Kite_DH!3GqYIJ3Obs : 2007-08-03 06:07 ID:4cbI0KZn

>>1 = troll

117 Name: Doba Ajiba : 2007-08-03 18:35 ID:0D4b2U5j

As the leading commander of the Buff Clan I would like to say that The Japanese have no comparison to my or my subordiantes SAMURAI Spirit! Those damn Logo Dao aliens can't compare to the true Spirit a SAMURAI should have... tears form If any should try and trample my passion come forth and you will be be headed by my SAMURAI honor!

118 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-04 13:26 ID:xtG4tGfq

come to here tokyo, its no so difficult that the thing to do you get to here is go into airplane heading to tokyo.
like just 8 hours trip?
yes better have much money with you if you like to buy goods at akiba?
apology for my sad english..

i been to NY and Hawaii years ago. my memory..

119 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-05 06:33 ID:B1VWxAj/

>>115

Everyone from little girls to grown men read manga, I thought we all knew this. It's only anime that carries the stigma.

120 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-05 06:48 ID:tQN6RmU1

>>118

THAT is fucking proof that not all Otaku hate Gajin. All of the trolls may eat their shit and go back to 4cahn.

You will never know what you will encounter in life.

121 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-05 11:19 ID:OiX/BaXP

What >>120 said is true.

Check out the English board on 2ch if you
want an example of otaku that like foreign
culture.

122 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-05 20:40 ID:tGo1F3Xv

>>121

Yeah,
And how about every single "foreigner" moe character in all kinds of manga/anime from Evangelion to Ichigo Mashimaro and Lucky Star.

123 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-06 06:46 ID:NlIn/umG

The difference is those gaijin speak fluent Japanese.

124 Name: 118 : 2007-08-06 10:00 ID:xf2qzEy5

?
I don’t hate foreigner. Only fun thing counts, not nationality.
Ah, and language skill…

125 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-06 12:03 ID:BPMlebW8

>>123
Well, you shouldn't go to Japan if you don't speak Japanese.

126 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-06 22:55 ID:NlIn/umG

>>125
I agree, but the JET program pulls in heaps of people who can't.

127 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-08-08 17:51 ID:HMQK+cWa

Japan is for Japanophiles...
And Japanese.

128 Name: Avitar Diggs : 2007-09-01 15:18 ID:Q0AxVwrH

Eh, everyone has their stupid obsessions. Anime, Video Games, Sports, Cars, Liquor, Idol/Actor Worship, Sex, etc. And to some degree, we all needlessly belittle each other because we don't conform to the "norm" of society perpetuated by the media which in itelf is pretty shallow and stupid. Just do what you want to do and damned if the people around you don't like it. As long as you'e enjoying it, noone else matters. It's not like you actually care about the nameless masses anyway.

And remember the no matter how different Japanese culture is from American culture, the Japanese are still people. They have the same day to day struggles we do. It's true for everyone in the world. Don't assume things about people withut getting to know them. Just wait a while, learn your Japanese, save up sme money, then go visit Japan.

129 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2007-09-01 22:50 ID:fwYL36lk

Hop on a plane and go. Airfares aren't that expensive. You'll have fun. Just go for a holiday.

130 Name: moe-style : 2012-02-14 03:36 ID:lB+3MGeX

131 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2012-02-23 01:17 ID:Heaven

Holy crap, this thread again.

Thanks >>130, now I'm all nostalgic for 4-ch's early days.

132 Name: Random Anime Otaku : 2012-08-22 21:30 ID:rzemIUIE

This entire thread. I have no words.

This thread has been closed. You cannot post in this thread any longer.