Eurotrip time!!!!
and >>196 it's good to learn from your mistakes. you'll do better next time!
Damn... Italy is a perfect place for love. Warm night, big moon, you cannot risk not confessing before her trip! Just ask her out. After all if her friends will tell you that she's got a boyfriend you won't do nothing it's the same situation as if she would reject you. So just better talk with her. Come on, she's your future girlfriend! You should be able to talk with your future girlfriend!
So where do you get to go for the snow day thing, Radio?
>>203 We have three choices of ski stations and other snowpark-type things.
>>201 I will talk to her. Except... whenever she's around I just lose track of what I'm doing and fuck things up. I need to concentrate. Tomorrow's my big chance. Every Wednesday she gets her lunch from a restaurant close to our school and brings it back to eat during songs on the station...
I could wait for her at her locker and talk to her when she comes back..
why dont you go with her?
Or maybe sorta like.. "bump into her" and then ask where she is goin, and ask if you could come with. I dunno...
I have never had a real boyfriend. For the longest time I have tried to be the ideal female to a man. Like being sensitive to his wants, being feminine, reserved, and polite. I am not ugly or fat either. My Mother had me practice these things when guests would come over to the house, and the men were always impressed. I thought that these things would guarantee a boyfriend. WRONG!!!
I cannot figure it out. Men look at me but that is it...nothing more. Right now I am very interested in this regular customer that comes in. He is a kind of a nerdy type, someone women tend to disregard. Tall, skinny, and wears glasses. He has never really paid me much attention until recently and I keep botching it up by getting too shy. If he looks at me, I always look away rather than try to meet his eyes.
Oh well, nothing will become of it as usual...
Goddamnit. My best friend knew about SAS and myself, and at lunchtime some DQN in my class blackmailed him into giving him information on both our crushes. It's not the fact that he knows this that pisses me off, it's that he blackmailed my friend into knowing this. It harms me even more since I'm bitter against him for doing this to use.
AND SINCE I'M BITTER, he's threatening to go out there and tell her. Nonsense.
don't worry about him, if you are able to get a date with her and he tells her that you have a crush on her he would look like a fool. i mean, why would you go out with a girl if you didnt have a crush or some sort of attraction to her? so ask her out before he can talk to her and ruin everything. and in the mean time, find a way to get him back for blackmailing your friend.
wish there were more girls like you locally.
Wow. Radio, it becomes more and more complicated. As a >>210 said, try to talk with her before this idiot will spoil everything. It really sucks to be shy. But what do you have to lose except your pride? God damn it I would rather ask 10 girls for a date if I could do it instead of going tomorrow to the dentist >< (he'll remove my 2 teeth).
Anyway, ask her out asap, cuz it's getting more and more complicated.
PS. All the girls know that men are becoming really dumb when they have to talk with them for the first time. They don't expect you to be very eloquent while asking them for the first date. So don't worry, and even if you'll mess something up, it'll be ok. Just try not to do the same mistakes a few times.
I'm crossing my fingers for ya.
PS. Thank god, that I've got a girlfriend and I don't have such problems...
PSS. Thank got that she'll be far away while I'll be in the dentist chair ><.
>>213 is right. Any girl who is worth dating understands if the person asking them out for the first time is nervous while doing so.
He came in today, and I made sure that I was the one to attend to him. I was so nervous to talk to him, because he seems like a sour person so I did not want to displease. He was picking up an order that he had made over the phone, but the order was no where to be found. So, displeasure was inevitable. He looked directly into my eyes for a moment, but I had to look away because I always think that the person will say "what are you looking at?!"
After his order was remade I brought it to him, and he gave me one more look, but no smile. He has never smiled at me...he only looks.
>>207
SMILE AT HIM! guys go crazy when a cute girl smiles at them
>>216
if he's anything like me, he may wear a thick coat of emotional armor after years of getting kicked in the teeth despite good intentions.
>>217 is sort of right, but this is a business, so it may simply be expected of the staff by customers. you may need to be more direct than that.
granted i'm just some moron over the internet, but asking the guy out might work. I have yet to hear of a guy who refused to go on at least one date with a girl (under 400 lbs that is) unless they already had a girlfriend. Also, His demeanor may change when he realizes theres more to it than business. I often carry about the same mannerisms day to day because work is boring and mindbending and most people i see are in my way.
>but this is a business, so it may simply be expected of the staff by customers.
even still if a cute girl smiles deep down inside i know she is being nice, my simple man brain tells me "hey stupid, she smiled, i think you got a shot."
I just came back from school.
That fag from the above post, >>209 was going to tell her late this afternoon, so I simply wasn't going to risk her being told by him and confessed to her less than an hour ago.
I was so shy and lost in her eyes that I just told her she looked simply gorgeous and I had a crush on her and then forgot everything else and just told her that I had to tell her or I'd simply go crazy from keeping it inside. We both had to leave shortly after I said this, so I wished her a good week-end and left.
Shortly after we both left school, it started raining. I don't know if I've fucked anything up or not, but I took advantage of the rain being there and started crying. All the tears and nervousness I've kept inside me finally could come out.
What happens after this? I don't know. Gah, I'm rambling.
damn radio, you have BALLS. i give you much respect. try to follow up on your confession, if she does feels the same, then congrats man, and if she doesnt, its not the end of the world, just get back up, hold your head up high, and find another horse to ride. you have done something the vast majority of are not able to do. you are the FUCKING MAN.
Radio, you gave me first chance to say: KITAAAA~~~~~
Congratz. I'm proud of you. It was allright. She didn't said anything? If she have to think about it, it's ok. Now it's her time to do something. Just don't try to ask her everyday if she made up her mind (it's tottaly not like you, but I had to say it). Anyway, there was only one thing that you should do and you didn't. You should offer her your umbrella. Maybe it was a bit too much to expect sharing it, but an offer would be good (if you had an umbrella :P). So my crossed fingers helped you ^_^.
Waiting for another report ;).
I'm 222. I talked with my girlfriend about it. She asked me how did SAS reacted when you told her about your feelings. She have also asked did you just said everything and run away?
These questions are quite good. Come on, give us some more details about such an important moment of your life ^_^.
Wow, good job, Radio! I give that a KITA!!!
Even if it didnt go the way you expected (I think thats why you think you fucked up), but at least she now knows that you like her. Now you should probably let her sort things out and sooner or later, she will tell you her reaction.
Lol, more details requested!
>>218 has a point.
However, at the same time, she hasn't mastered the art of looking at him. One step at a time.
>did you just said everything and run away?
I didn't run away, I tried to segway it into getting an answer, but she was just too stunned or shocked (or both) to actually say anything, so I just kindly told her to have a nice week-end and headed home. If I stood there, I wouldn't have only missed the bus, but it would have let to an uncomfortable silence...
I have no other information to report. Live with it. :P
>>207 ID go out with you! lol...if you really fit the description you said....but anyway...that whole thing about you, being all super feminine and everything, is that really you though? or some image your mom told you would work? like, really, wouldnt want to put out a false image to someone, and they fall in love with that image, and thats not really the real you at all, so, just, BE YOU. as for the guy issue, contactttttt is good. gettin betting with the eye stares, but, course a smile would be very good too, lucky for you, hes a regular too
>>Radio
YOURE THE MAN NOW DAWG! KITA! do you communicate with SAS over aim? or anything like that? she know your number? man...gettin itchy for a report man...and it is understandable to leave after confessing, well, wat else could you do man? yeah, i suppose, wat we gotta do is sit and wait.
and, thanks for the encouragement guys, too bad, the occurance shall never happen again, and i dont know any girls at all
>>227 I am feminine because I like to be, it feels really nice. So I do not feel like I am putting out anything false. To be otherwise would feel strange.
It would be impossible for me to make the first move on him because it is not my nature and he is a customer. He comes across as cold, so I do not want to be annoying by being really sugary when he comes in. Eye contact and a nice smile is a start, but I do not think he would take a hint from it.
>>Radio
btw, valentines day is coming up (not that it matters to me or anything), chance? same with u too 207
>>207 you said he was the geeky type, how geeky is he? If he's really geeky, his coldness could just be because he's shy towards people too. I don't know as I wasn't there but do you think that might be why he seems cold? You don't have to act sugary or ask him out. Just talk to him. Maybe, once you talk to him, you find out he's not your type. But then again, it could also be a first step right? ★☆(~_^).v ☆★
>>Radio Otoko! keep heart!!!! (>_<)>
Very good advice, and with cute emoticons too!
>>Radio, if you didn't had an umbrella, then everything was ok. My girlfriend told me that she was also shocked when her friend told her about me. So it seems that it's a normal thing. Now she knows what you feel ^_^. Just let her make the next move. Now we should just shut up and wait. Damn this weekend is soooo long ><...
>>227 No, SAS and I don't communicate out of school. To be honest, I'm not too fond of talking to others in French (aww, I think that's a huge clue as to where I'm located, especially to #4-ch-ers). Also, I have no cellphone, so to avoid any interference from parents, I don't plan on giving her my phone number.
>>229 I won't see her much for Valentine's Day because we have some crappy obligatory course we need to take at the nearby university. There are high chances that we won't see her at all that day. :(
What's with everybody using >> so much... :P
It's getting to be quite confusing finding out what's a quote and what isn't.
-sigh- I recently had a girlfriend, but she was such a psycho-bitch. She recently came in during lunch and handed me a note telling me she was going to kill herself if I didn't give her more attention. Only problem being, I'm too fucking busy writing a fucking research paper, so I can't be arsed to do anything except research at the moment. Either that, or I could show her more attention and fail my class. Either way...
find her some help, tell her parents or someone
>>234 you may lose her if you won't pay her enough attention. Is it a sacrifice you can afford?
duct tape really clears out the pore
Oh ffs. Is it usual for girls to invite a girlfriend along on a not-officially-a-date? It's really annoying, I mean, what am I gonna tell her, "no, your friend can please stay the fuck away"? :/
>>239 What interests me about him? I have never really thought about it. I just saw him one day, and was just attracted.
He does not come across as shy, just nervous and agitated sometimes. I asked my manager about him because she interacts with him the most and she laughed at me. She said he was ugly, prissy, high matanience, awkward and a dweeb.
Well, he did not come in today but maybe tomorrow...
Goddammit. Valentine's day is coming.
>>241 you go to dinner, the friend laughs a lot and seems like they are having a good time. Then after the friend says how boring you are while your love interest defends you! ~_^
you need a wingman, to take care of the extra girl.
hi guys.
I don't trust women. Therefore I am single and plan on keeping everything I struggle for, for myself. It does not bother me to be alone for I do not feel as though I am missing out on anything.
What can a woman do for me?
Sex? Sex is not the answer to anything. She doesn't like it...and if she does then she is whorish.
A cook? I can survive on my own
Laundry? Ditto.
Conversation? What would I talk to her about? What? How my day went? No. Because she will try to change me and mold me into something she wants.
Women are not the answer. You have these feminists trying to make men appear to be foolish, halfwitted oafs. They have claimed not to need man anymore than a fish needs a bicycle.
That works two ways. I do not mean to say that all women are bad, just that I don't need one. I cannot be an emotional tampon nor do I need one.
Not to flame you, but it sounds like you desparately try o justify your inability to find a partner and cope with your loneliness.
You see, that is how it is. Everyone thinks they need someone. I'm interjecting an alternative viewpoint to this desperate, desperate idea that everyone NEEDS somebody. You really don't.
It is not capability I lack, it is interest and necessity.
And that scares people. That perhaps they are misguided....like salmon swimming upstream to spawn. Like the praying mantis who gets eaten....
Because when you look into the eyes of a "partner" you are looking into the eyes of a stranger.
PERHAPS....it is my fault. I have made myself comfortable without the need for a "partner". Perhaps I am out of the mainstream. Perhaps my lifestyle is extreme...I do not know.
I am alone....but not lonely.
Radio Otoko please post wonderful news today! everything seems so dreary for me, I hope you have something cheerful to report! no matter what, we support you!
Good report please! ☆*clasps hands in prayer*☆
>>253
your thinking of a partner in term of UTILITARIAN need. i mean, who knows, you might meet a woman who totally cant cook or do laundry, but ull love her anyway. its a feeling, which many people here want to experience but cant seem to get. for you, itll happen someday i believe, or mabye, has happened to you in the past, and youve just become emotionally scarred or something. im not saying you NEED anyone like, zomg, i need a woman to cook and clean for me and stay home with the kidz0rz. not to mention, the way u put them as, is very very masculine chauvinistic, which, is a bit ignorant btw. mabye if you talked to some women these days you could see that not ALL of them are the way that you described.
>>254 Whatever happens, I'll post it.
Hi people. Newbie here. Need some relationship advice. Thanks for your help!
Is it normal for those people who are having long term relationships, to have crush on others every so often?
Confused,
yeah i guess it is normal to have crushes on other people. just dont act on these crushes are else that would suck royally, just stick to the girl you have and you will be fine.
>>258
Nothing happened. :/
This is a battle between emotion and reason.
By logic I would merely need a partner to aid and assist in the perpetuation of my life functions and to make my daily routine more convenient. "love" is nothing more than sympathetic and parasympathetic physical reaction spurred by a need or instinctual desire for procreation. I do not view the world in Masculine and Feminine. Perhaps I am too austere in my emotional thinking but it is emotions that cause all of the worlds problems. Feelings and Beliefs. Not science and reason. I do not at this time desire procreation, and I am quite adept at self suffiency. At this time another person would not fare well in my equation. Besides, desire, however accepted is a sign of emotional despondency and abandonment issues.
In the modern world, you truly need no one.
nothing happened?! details requested!!!
>>261
youre human, its that simple, dont try and hide it and tell everyone youre an emotionally cold robot, cuz, you probably arent. I know someone like you, and, inside, he actually did fall in love with someone, and it was the creepiest and weirdest thing ever, because he talks and thinks exactly like you, but, even someone like him was capable of love, course, got rejected and all, but he was still capable of it. and, with a mindset like that, who would want to "procreate" with you anyway? mabye thats your problem
radio! ;_:
>>207
How about drawing a little heart on his receipt? :3
>>265
Better yet, your phone number.
Do not try to offer emotion or taste into an argument and then end it with a personal barb.
There are NO standards to human thought, only normatives and consensu. I am not a cold emotional robot. I'm quite happy and I do the things I enjoy doing. I just don't believe in love or anything else. I have actually tried to like women before, but found myself uncomfortable because I REALLY didn't like them. Some were fairly attractive, others were moderately common. I can relate to some of their personalities, but find myself lacking. Finally I said "Maybe I just don't like people that way. Maybe I'm just a really ardent individualist." So that's how I live. I find it satisfying that I don't need an emotional anchor or that I feel obligated to another person. My life is mine to live or lose. No one elses. No concerns, no frets. I don't need sex and while I don't dislike children, I see no need to have any. People place too much importance on relationships.
There ARE alternatives.
Me? I'm just a sober, asexual atheist who takes care of himself.
>>259
Thanks. Is it okay for me to be a female in this thread, while asking for a guy's opinion?
Actually I've been with my bf for 10 years now, met him when I was still in High school. He's very caring for me over these years, although I had realized in recent years that there are many things we are not in common of, and I can hardly see a future of us.
Although we've been seeing each other so often, we have less to talk about. We talked about common things like sports and news, but we never discuss about our inner feelings, our goals. We talk about practical things but nothing phylosophical. That's why I'm confused.
There is this other male friend of mine who we can talk a lot, almost everything, from office chitchat to phylosophy, hobby, etc. We have things in common and others different. But at least we are able to understand and listen to each other. I only known him for more than a year, but he's a very good friend of mine, intellectually. However, he doesn't like to talk about himself that much. Only thru bits and pieces he told me that I started to know more about him.
Despite the fact whether I'm having a crush on my friend, I'm just wondering if a couple would be able to talk about everything. Not only common topics on the surface, but also deep inside our hearts. When ever I start getting emotional, my bf would ask me not to think too much. He thinks all these phylosophical thinking that i've been going thru is a waste of time. However, thru these years he's been giving me very good advises and help which guided me when I most needed him. All these years I've been drowned by his care and love, but now I'm confused if I really love him.
Is it possible to have a relationship like that while having another close male friend who shares my intellectual feelings?
I'm confused because I don't know if I really love my bf or am I just relying on him. I'm confused because I'm not sure if I'm wasting both me and my bf's time or not.
Thanks for listen to me.
How does he feel?
>>268
How was the relationship in the early days? Did you have deep conversations with him, was it filled a lot of passion? Basically, why did you fall in love with him in the first place?
Sorry, I maybe misunderstanding you. Do you mean how does my friend feel?
Actually he's very nice to me, so does to everyone. But somehow, maybe it's only my imagination, I feel that we talk more deeply than he would to other people. We can sit and talk forever non-stop on many things. I feel there is something between us, more than friends, less than lovers.
As for my bf, we are just like normal couples in which I live with him over the weekends. We live like a married couple, but talk less. We do our own things separately, but occationally we go out together and enjoyed the time we spend together. It's like a habit to be with my bf, though I realized I never really understand him.
10 years huh? You're long past the "Infatuation and Attraction" stage of relationships and have naturally entered the "Uncertainty " stage. Heres what my relligion teacher, a certifiable expert on this kind of thing, had to say about this step:
From what I can tell, your relationship is a mixture between exclusivity and uncertainty, and definitely prior to intimacy.
You, as a woman, are naturally worried about where the relationship is going, where as it sounds like your bf is a typical guy who's only interested in the what he gets out of the relationship. I'm not dogging on either sex, this is all a very natural process. In this stage of the relationship, you will both make mistakes and your uncertainty is most certianly a result of one of them. Sounds like hes put down his guard over the years and doesn't do the little things that you probably found made him attractive. You almost seem to take each other for granted, which is unfortunately not uncommon.
This line from this book we used by the same religion teacher (it was a huge section on the nature of relationships): "Men tend to stop listenting to their partners and women tend to stop asking questions and may become restentful", seems to sum of some of your problems.
Onto the relationshp involving more than one guy, it really depends on where you want to be. If you aren't exclusive, there is nothing wrong with dating more than one guy, but if you are exclusive then it is difficult to maintain a relationship between those two. The most important thing between both you and your bf is to not cheat, and at this point he might consider this cheating even if you don't.
My advice: if you've been with your original bf for ten years, keep it up. You are a victim of mutual attraction from another guy who is fresher to you, thats natural but keep in mind it can hurt your bf. Communication is the key, talk with him and ask him what he thinks about the nature of your relationship. Don't worry about your confusion, that is the natural order of things and if you talk it out I guarantee your stress will be relieved quite a bit.
Correct me if I'm over-analyzing and please don't get angry with me, this is only friendly advice from a guy who doesn't know jack about relationships but was educated by a guy who knows more on the subject than any other man I've met.
It's like love at first sight when I first met my bf. We met thru internet as friends, and later on went out for the first date. It was then we start dating naturally. I don't even know why I fell in love with him in the first place, it just happened. We have same hobby, same interests. I like the way he showed me a different world, broadened my view, and guided me when I needed advises.
Basically he is my first serious relationship. I had other puppy loves before, but he's the first serious one. It was during my high school days when I met him. For all those years in school, he's the only guy I see. Basically because I think I'm so deeply in love with him, I'm willing to take up all my time possible to be with him. I can see no one else but him. And because of that, I basically had no socially life other than the time spent in school.
Later when I met more people, I realized there's more than just a bf. I started to meet more friends, and there had been times when he realized I was interested in another guy. We ran into a big fight which nearly costed our relationship. We managed to put it together again and continue our relationship.
However, we start having arguments more often. Usually I'm being a whimp who just takes all his temper and say nothing, that it's all my fault, begging him to forgive me and give me another chance. But lately, I found I can't continue like that. I wanted to voice out. It's not always my fault. He has to take responsibility as well (obviously I didn't say that). It was kinda stressed at that time, but at least it's over now.
We did talk about planning for the future. However, I have my family to support, and he doesn't. At the current stage, I cannot affort to support both my family and the two of us. Also he's not ready to meet my family yet, after so many years. I started to feel that we have no future. And as I meet more people, I also started to feel that I can have a better life and relationship without him. But as we've been together for so many years, I treasure the time we spend together. I do not want to make a wrong move.
We hardly have any deep conversations, except for the recent time we analyse our plan for future. He doesn't want to take up responsibility, and always say I think too much. I mentioned to him that I wanted to plan for the future, and his excuse is either that we have no future, or I can leave if I don't like it.
Sigh...why am I still staying with him? It's like addicted to drugs, can't quit.
Thank you very much for your analysis and advise. It's a relief to hear that it's normal to feel uncertain at this point. I've been hearing from many friends that ten years is a whole lot of time, and I should treasure this relationship.
In comparison, I'm always like a kid in front of my bf, always being taken care of. Yet when I talk with my friend, I feel like a woman, or a grown up, that I would be taking care of others. It's the feeling between needing and being needed.
When I'm with my friend, I feel that I'm being respected as a person with unique idea. I'm being listened and understood.
With my bf, usually he doesn't like to listen to me. Just like what you have quoted from your teacher. I do ask questions sometime, but his response is "Don't ask. Just do it." One thing I'm most inspired with my bf is that somehow he's always right. Eventhough I may not understand or agree with in the first place, he turns out to be correct.
I guess it's now into the questions of why do I love someone and what is love? Or is there no answer to this question and I'm just over reacting?
Ah, so you're the type that let's her man think for her. Are you doing anything else but house work?
I'm working. Plus we only see each other 2 days a week.
>>262 Well, I saw SAS a couple times yesterday but the one time she actually saw me, she was with her friends and I felt like she was avoiding me. :(
>>277
she is probably still shocked, give it a few days, and if she doesn't come up to you, you need to go to her.
Just thought I'd post my own minor success...
Got a girl to agree and study with me, but with two minor annoyances:
Hopefully it goes fine, but I dunno.
I'm kind of annoyed that the friend is coming and that I have to wake up at 8am if I want to eat breakfast and all that... There's my rant. :)
>>277
Radio, don't worry! She can't just come and talk with you when her friends are around. I've talked with my girlfriend and she told me that it's true.
She may need some time, but I can tell you one thing: everyone likes to hear that someone loves him. It's a nice thing to hear. Even if you don't feel anything for a person, these words are like a tiny sparks that warms up your heart.
Just wait for a good time, especially when she'll be ALONE and try to talk with her. Not about the feelings, but about anything. I think that she had some time to think about everything and even if you start a normal chat, sooner or later she'll just tell you about her feelings. Probably she is dying to give you the answer (either yes or no), but you need a good place and ANY excuse to talk.
We are crossing our fingers. I'm leaving town for 2 days, but will try to check your progress asap. If you'll have any problems or new info, just let us know ^_^.
We are crossing our fingers for you.
Whatever happens Radio, you did great. I have my fingers crossed for you too! And keep your head up high! keep us posted!
DETAILS REQUESTED!!! （＾∀＾）☆☆☆！！！！
radio, dont worry i think you should just give her some time.
Radio, I just started reading your situation so I may not have a complete idea of what is going on. However, I do know that patience is the key. Just give her time to recollect her thoughts and the time will come when she'll give you the answer. Don't rush her. Anyways, I'm hoping for the best!
>_>
This won't work.
Damn, Radio.
This is a bad situation... I think the best move is to tell your friends to leave you the fuck alone for a bit and go talk to SAS. Thats what I think, at least...
Maybe she goes to 4-ch too!?
I am sorry Radio Otoko...but maybe she is not as sweet as she seemed. It is often that a person's true nature is revealed after this sort of thing. I am not suggesting to give up, but maybe treat her as she treats you.
radio,
i was afraid this was going to happen. 80% of the time, a premature confession freaks out the girl. the shock and the gravity of the confession scare girls. but have faith, try to follow up on this. first of all tell your friend to give you space, also tell the kid (aka the douchebag) to fuck off, he already ruined your plans, he will probably make things worse.
dont worry man, things always work out in the end
>>289 She doesn't go on 4-ch... that is, I don't think she does. >_>
I think I've found out what his plan is. And it's very clever.. IF you want to destroy someone's relationship. There is a Valentine's Day card trading thing at school. The cards will be delivered to people who are recipients on Valentine's Day.
What if that douchebag sends one under my name and classroom and writes nonsense? Do I sue him for identity theft? And most of all, what happens if this happens and she doesn't believe that it isn't me?
Goddamnit.
you don't sue him for identity theft, you beat the shit out of him.
>>292
rofl, ive done that before, and im doing it this valentines day to some douchebag (not for a girl), TWICE.....
dude, odds are, your handwriting wont be the same, also, she'll know its not you...considering, you just confessed like, 2 minutes ago. just be like, yeah, it wasnt me man...in a more, sincere way of course....
get her alone and try and clear things up. Have faith, but...a girl I confessed to turn cold towards me too. much the same way with SAS. In some ways, i think it's her way of helping me get over her and plus things do get awkward after something like this and if she doesn't love you back. However, it's good you confessed early as sooner or later, it'd explode. betters ooner than later.
I think most girls turn cold towards people they do not like. It's almost like a natural instinct. To me, it seems that they just move away and run from this fact because they don't want to deal with this uncomfortable situation. If your friends are always following you, why dont you tip them in on the situation so they can help you get some alone time with SAS?