So, did this finally come out? It hasn't arrived @ my local dealer yet, but was supposed to come out in April...
Anyway, ITT Genshiken manga! BANZAI! BANZAI! BANZAI!
Vol 1-3 by Del Rey
http://www.randomhouse.com/delrey/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=0345481690
http://www.randomhouse.com/delrey/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=0345481704
http://www.randomhouse.com/delrey/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=0345481712
Genshiken Anime
http://4-ch.net/anime/kareha.pl/1099441688
English Genshiken stuff for Share
http://bbs.shii.org/read.php/download/1102707466/
Oh, by the way,
Pit Viper is Madarame (The extensive way of speaking)
Toshizo is Kohsaka (the obvious knowledge of fighting games)
Benjamin is Sasahara (Ritsuko Kubel Kettengrad obsession)
Fukurou or whatever he's called in English is Tanaka (it's mentioned in one of the actual chapters)
Kodama is Kugayama (Slight obsession with Yamada)
Yohko is Ohno (old man yaoi)
>>39
Sir, I am in your debt.
Eagerly awaiting Vol 4 next week!
Oh, the other hint for Benjamin is that (in both the anime and the manga) he fills out his Comifes slip with that name.
so uh volume four came out! nobody's said anything about it!
the "fanzine" translation that everybody hated has been phased out. they just call them "books" now. sadly, we see #$(#$#%*-censored profanity for the first time in this volume. does this appear in the original japanese volumes or did del rey change policy between v3 and v4?
i do in fact like ogiue. they needed a self-loathing otaku personality.
I like Ogiue a lot. Especially how she is handled later on.
>>42 It may be censored. But you can still tell exactly what is is. "Fucking Marathon!" = LOL
I was thinking that they could have just put Masterbation Marathon instead. But maybe in his case he is thinking he is actually fucking them.
I was pretty disapointed when I flipped through the english version in the bookstore. Ogiuge's grand enterance was ruined!
She after she says she hates girl otaku, she is supposed to say "Why do they like homos so much?" not "You look like a bunch of queers" or whatever. Thus Ohno's outrage. orz
As for if Madarame's line was censored in the Japanese it was, in fact the Japanese was more subtle I would say. There will be more censored talking in volume 5 as well.
Gaah!
>>46
Blarg. At least Ohno's outburst makes more sense now. Reading Love Roma vol 2 has convinced me that its translation team should be doing Genshiken. The current guy is way too sloppy and uninformed on the subculture.
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About the last bit in Vol 4, do girls really bitch about each other that harshly? How is Saki an otaku name?
>>52
of course they do. and the bit about saki is some lost-in-translation pun. i think i read an explanation (was this in the translator's notes?) the first kanji of her name is the same as the one in "moe". i'm not sure though.
They fucked up "a sister related by blood is useless" line too.
gay erotica doesn’t carry the same stigma in Japan as in the West. In fact, it’s part of the samurai tradition. That’s not to say that all samurai had same-sex experiences, but Japan before the mid-19th century was much like ancient Greece, in that it was considered acceptible for older men to have intimate relationships with boys. Some people may be uncomfortable with that, but it’s an historic fact.
Japan is the most published nation on earth, with more specialty magazines and books printed and sold there than any other country. It’s only natural that they would have more literature about any given subject. Walk into a big bookstore in Japan like Kinokuniya in Shinjuku and you’ll be amazed by the variety. Glossy magazines about everything from trains to watches to rabbits as pets. Coffee table books on the most obscure subjects.
But the main reason is because it’s big business. One of the most profitable genres in Japanese publishing is something called “yaoi”. It’s basically gay literature—from sappy puppy-love teenage stuff—to hardcore, non-consentual gay porn. And surprise! -it’s written by women, for women. For some reason, many Japanese women are really into the idea of men being together. I’m straight, but I have women friends—both Japanese and American—who are addicted to yaoi the way that guys are addicted to hetero porn.
Anime that has gay characters is usually called “shounen-ai” (or “boy’s love”) and it generally targets the younger demographic. A related anime term is “bishounen” (“beautiful boy”), which may not actually have same-sex stories, but has effeminate, idealized guys. What you call “lesbian” characters is most often “yuri”, or “girl-love”, which is also not stigmatized, nor does it preclude hetero relationships. The Japanese are way ahead of the rest of the world in accepting whatever flavor of interests a person has.
Volume 5! Ohno vs Ogiue in the first couple of chapters is pure gold.
Gaah, I've got it on order from the comics store, who haven't gotten it yet, while the normal bookstore does have it! TORTURE!
Thanks to fuckups by the comics store, I now have volume 5 anyway! It continues to be great, but the translation quality and editing sadly also continue to kind of suck. Even without having the Japanese version to compare, I could spot some minor but obvious errors (like the non-sensical scene at the print shop).
At least we finally get to the Ogiue action. I just love each and every Ogiue-enters-the-room scene, and I hope they'll keep on being a running joke. The Comicfest chapter is also really good.
I just came from the bookstore where I regulary get my manga (including GENSHIKEN). Something horrible has happened...the manga shelf has dissapeared! It used to be the shelf right next to the american comics, which now filled with even more graphic novels like 50 more copies of V for Vendetta and Superman. When I asked one of the staff, they told me all mangas have been moved to the KID'S SECTION.
Yes, that "kid's section". The one where they have bright yellow carpet and lego shaped booksheves. Now I have to get on my knees to look at the mangas because the shelves are too low! Not to mention it's embarassing to be looking at books next to toddlers.
(sniff,sniff)...sorry for the rant, but once again society has plotted to make buying manga an embarassing experience...even more than usual.
>>60
You'd better tell the manager to rectify that before he gets some irate parent complaining about their kid coming home with the adult content in Monster or DearS.
>>61
Better yet, I hope some kids grab the shonen-ai stuff on that shelf like FAKE....or maybe their moms would like it?
>>62
Haha, the neighbourhood mom book club going squee over gay teenagers is an amusing image. Seriously though, if they start getting a lot of grief they might decide manga is more trouble than it's worth, especially with the recent plateau/decrease in sales.
>>63
ur right...I'll call the store and tell the manager his boneheaded mistake. Politely, of course.
Genshiken is great !
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anyone know what this would be called in Hong Kong? or if it is even out here?
Good show/manga. I have the 1st vol DVD and 2nd-6th vol of manga.
7th vol is WIN for it's ecchiness ﾉｼ
I watched the anime first but I read the manga next, this story might be basic but I loved it. Lol Japanese otaku lives are kind of funny dont you agree?
The doujin making process in vol 5 made me want to make one and at the same time made me fear it.
New volume is out! The scene with the tie is made pure win by Ogiue's reaction. I also liked the Saki vs Ogiue bits, like how she manipulated her into trying cosplay. Madarame's conversation with Saki at the restaurant was odd though, a bit out of left field. Maybe there's something missing in the translation?
I read somewhere that the doujin extras at the end might not be complete. Are there any pages missing?
Maybe you were just ASLEEP when you read it? It's totally obvious what's going on.
>>72
If I remember right, there was a tiny bit left out of the doujin extras. At the end there were pages where the author of each comic made some comments in a little box, then a page of comments from the genshiken author. There was a ton of handwritten text that I'm sure would be hard to translate, though I don't have it with me at the moment to look and double check it. It was pretty cool that they included it at all though.
>>73
His feelings are obvious, yeah, but I didn't expect him to nearly confess out loud.
yeah
uh huh
Big News!
There's going to be a Volume 9, and the limited edition includes a doujinshi supplement and an audio drama CD with OGIUE! Fuck, I need to get a credit card. orz
http://heiseidemocracy.com/2006/08/30/genshiken-the-saga-continues/
http://shop.kodansha.jp/bc/yoyaku/comics/genshiken9/
We have a Genshiken image board now.
Not that I wanted to stir up a dead discussion.
Really.
>>75
I wonder if you are mistaking monologues for dialogues.
Lately it's not unusual to apply phrases-without-balloons for
dialogue. But basically it has been used to express character's
monologue or to supplement description of character's non-verbal expression with written words.
In the sushi restaurant, Madarame's whole speeches without
baloons ware never-voiced messages for Saki and himself.
He is acting usual himself, a mean aggressive pit viper,
but inside he is suffering from his hidden feeling.
Anyway, the contrast between two characters' story - Sasahara's small but happy adventures and growing up in his life,
and Madarame's sad love - is the core of the story of Genshiken.
I wish all readers of Genshiken understand and share this point
to enjoy it more.
It got hard.
Oh man, I finally read the last volume.
What a long time it's been, and what a great story.
It got hard. <-- best line in any manga I've read in recent years.
Yeah I think I'm going to be remembering that one for some time.