I've always wanted to know why imageboards are encouraging anonymous posting so extremely. What's the advantage of anonymity?
For example, on 4chan, if you use tripcodes there, people will look upon you as a "tripcode fag". What's wrong with online usernames?
No thanks. I post on /soc/ because there's some semblance of intelligent life there. I love 4chan for the flames, but you'll never get me to take it seriously.
Also, I don't like blogs. It's a stupid reason, but it's good enough for me.
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Blogs are lame. Now that we have these kind of boards there is no point for blogs at all. Indeed, that A-san had to post his rant there instead of posting it on world4ch (or some other place, run by a competing group, lol) kinda contradicts his own points.
What a sad person.
Trackbacks are a silly kludge to try and glue some forum-like (reply) structure on to blogs. It doesn't really work, you still have an awful lot of people just talking to themselves.
Blogs are like a great machinery set up only to create interesting topics for discussion, and then immediately kill them before they have a chance to develop.
I really need to write a proper rant about that one of these days.
> create interesting topics for discussion
But only topics the blog owner finds interesting. That's a major detriment for something supposedly community-driven.
It also encourages groupthink. Since the readers have no option in the topics provided, those who find it dull go elsewhere.
> instead of posting it on world4ch
Well, the post size limit would have to be increased :V:
This is because more people read the blog than read world4ch (although this shouldn't be the case, and I don't know why it is), anyway, and I can't see how it suddenly being in wordpress kills discussion.
> What a sad person.
Oh
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> This is because more people read the blog than read world4ch
to the best of my recollection, anyway. This wasn't trackbacked (WEB 2.0!!!!), but he did post the whole thing as a reply to the original blog post some other guy wrote, which I found on google. That one quoted Shii, so everything is already there and the extra stuff is just to impress WEB 2.0 NOOSPHERE ENGINEERS who like lots of words.
> I can't see how it suddenly being in wordpress kills discussion.
Because blogs forcible age.
In a forum, if it's worth discussing, it'll continually be bumped. You can't bump a blog; wheat and chaff are treated equally.
> This is because more people read the blog than read world4ch
No, this is because it was posted at the top of every board in 4chan, most notably /b/. Instead of putting it in a forum for it to live and die by its own merits, it was posted in a blog and whored out to the stupidest citizens on the intarwebs.
That's why.
There's only three entries in it; even if that does apply in the general case (which it probably does, and the comments were at one point going to link to a forum thread, but I don't know why they don't now), it won't now.
> No, this is because it was posted at the top of every board in 4chan, most notably /b/.
Someone bought an ad that linked to a world4ch thread, and it isn't getting as many posts as this is, so expecting them to pay attention to the blotter is probably giving too much credit.
I don't remember what my point is anymore.
> Someone bought an ad that linked to a world4ch thread
I've never seen that ad. Considering how ads rotate, it probably received very little "airtime". On the other hand, links to the blogs are persistent. If you replaced the links to the blogs with links to threads in world4ch, you'll probably get similar or higher post numbers.
Anyway, nobody pays attention to ads. I know that's not what 4chan is looking for, but people are very good at filtering out what they're not interested it. In fact, they're so good at it that they often filter out what is of interest. This is why Madison Avenue is getting so desperate.
I think the only ad I recall are the two girls in swimsuits. It's relevant to my interests.
> I don't remember what my point is anymore.
Neither do I. :D
> I can't see how it suddenly being in wordpress kills discussion.
Because, as dmpk2k said, no bumping. There's no way to keep a discussion alive on a blog, because as soon as there's a couple of new posts, everyone forgets the old one. On a slow-moving blog like 4chan's, it's not as big a problem, but on a faster-moving one, it means discussion will happen for a day or two at most. I, at least, might only check back once a day or so, so that means I might get a comment in, and maybe get in a single reply, too. That's no way to hold a discussion.
Eh, not exactly, although it can be used that way, it doesn't strike me as the only potential use.
From what I hear, part of the philosophy behind it, is the informal/formal heirarchical structure that comes from a system in which you know who is talking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2channel
shrugs So far, this seems interesting.
>>40
My point was more about anonymity. Why he had to go and post it in a blog with restricted posting rights for a select elite, under his own name instead of posting the whole thing (in parts of course, d'uh) on world4ch anonymously, I don't know. It just seems sad. The whole blog seems sad.
But are blogs really supposed to be in competition with forums of any stripe? To me, a blog is more personal. It might be vanity, but it's where I get to post about things that I currently am interested in. Validating individual blog posts by the # of comments, or responses they engender sounds like it might get into the realm of comment whoring and attention-seeking behaviors, something I see a bit too much on LJ. Much like a vanity web page, your blog is your little corner of the web. It's where you spit out your thoughts, to those interested. If people get bored and leave, it really isn't a big deal.
News blogs also need to age, because of the format, and expectations, surrounding any news service. Mainly, it needs to keep current, which will be harder when older news gets aged to the top because it's considered more interesting.
I'm surprised at how much I like this forum, and it's structure. Parts of it are a little odd for me, but that has a lot to do with what I expect from forums. However, it doesn't IMO replace blogs. It's a different tool. You don't have to like blogs, but to me, comparing them is a little like comparing apples and orangutans.
>My favorite example: if WAHa says something about programming, I take it more seriously than unknown Anonymous.
Isn't that exactly what the format of the forum is attempting to avoid?
It might help if you, you know, read the thread.
>>51 I have been reading the thread. I'm also trying to understand the concept in general. To say I'm a n00b here is an understatement. I'm not attempting to question your behavior by itself. I'm trying to understand whether or not it's considered in line with the philosophy behind 2ch-style boards.
Whether or not this is a good thing, is not something I'm paricularly interested in, right now. I'll make my own judgement on that, over time.
Is there something in particular on the thread that you think I missed? I'm interested in reading it.
I meant the link in >>19, but I think I misunderstood where you're coming from.
> Isn't that exactly what the format of the forum is attempting to avoid?
My belief in this format is two-fold:
Essentially, the board policy doesn't enforce certain annoying elements that phpBB and its ilk have.
> But are blogs really supposed to be in competition with forums of any stripe?
What they are or are not supposed to be fairly irrelevant. The fact is that they are turning into the main format of discussion on the web, and that annoys me to no end, because they are useless for this.
>The fact is that they are turning into the main format of discussion on the web, and that annoys me to no end, because they are useless for this.
Okay, therein we're in agreeance.
Fair enough, thanks for your response. :)