∧＿∧ In this thread, you can talk English with each other.
( ・ω・) Let's drink tea together and chat about this and that.
（つ旦0 Ramble, communicate, have fun!
と＿)__) The native speakers will bring the cookies.
I decided I would make it a point to preview
what was going to come up in class.
Until now, I've never done it, and
I've found it'll turn out to be tough to follow
my lecturer if I don't do it, because the amount of study things
I struggle amazingly increased recently.
100 pages of text books are killing me.
Previewing might not hurt, but rather be helpful.
how old are you?
And what are you studing now?
What kind of cookies would you like?
>>4
Not too sweet
and not too thin
nor too thick
are most of the people here students?
>>2
That's not a bad idea. It can help if you work things out for yourself, and try to stay interested in what you're learning.
I think I'd be too lazy to preview things unless I was really having trouble with them, though.
It's sad that this thread has died so quickly, it could have been really something.
Do the Japanese users hear rather talk in the Giko Bar or another place instead?
I downloaded My finest hour, an RPG.
The game is very picturesque, beautiful, magnificent.
But the problem is, the system is too complicated to understand.
My characters can't level up even though they earned
the experience points needed to progress,
and I don't know why. So it's sad but I gave up this game.
How can I beat my opponent if I can't level up?
>>9
The Giko Bar is one of the 2ch AAs?
First I didn't get what that is, though.
>>9
Yeah, they have the chatter/monologue threads on 2ch.
That's one reason somo of them can't be bothered
to post here, I think.
But more important is it that most of them don't know about
4ch. We must advertise it.
Anyway, here's what I have in mind:
the number of people here is very limited,
so if there comes a new comer, he's not here to stay
because of sluggishness, which leads to fewer people
coming here.
If you allow me to talk about my case, I came here
because a Germany person named Anonymous built a thread
and introduced 4ch. The thread is very deserted now, though.
So if we make a great effort to ask more people to come here,
here they'll come. We need to put our minds to get 4ch popular.
As a result, this thread will be full of people.
for me it's a rather hard to concentrate on studies. I always excurse on another stuff. internet, etc. That's why im permanent loser
let me neet♪
don't worry >>13! we're all permanent losers on the internet!! let us embrace each other as brothers!1
I'm home.
Sorry to have kept you waiting for me.
So where did you all know about 4ch, anyway?
>>16
I learned through 4-ch.net by browsing WAKAchan.org
I am also the Anonymous who started those two threads on the 2ch ENGLISH ita.
>>17
Hi, Anonymous san.
Nice to talk to you here.
So you knew about 2ch after you stumbled on 4ch, right?
But I wonder how Squeek san found 2ch before creating 4ch.
Unless I'm mistaken, Japan Times, a kind of newspaper
published in Japan and also written in English, said
2ch was the most famous BBS in Japan
(I'm sure the 2ch ENGLISH ita was mentioned in the
article a time or two). So if the founder of 4ch read it,
there was no wonder he had a look at 2ch and was inspired,
though.
Haven't any overseas news media brought up the subject
about 2ch by now, have they?
Here, the article I mentioned is just a click away.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nc20030213mr.htm
If you're interested, I recommend to you to read it.
>>18
> So you knew about 2ch after you stumbled on 4ch, right?
No, I knew about 2ch before. Don't know from where, though. I guess it's just a site you neccessarily come across after you get interested in the Japanese part of the internet, yknow?
> Haven't any overseas news media brought up the subject
about 2ch by now, have they?
Well, there are at least these few articles:
http://4-ch.net/nihongo/kareha.pl/1104174791/8
A lot of people probably know 2ch this way:
4chan.net got very popular, as an english version of futaba channel. (Although there's a lot of english image boards now.) The community has always been quite interested in weird things from futaba, and eventually learnt some things about 2ch as well.
Maybe it's backwards to do it that way? 2ch is massive and fascinating, but images don't rely so much on language...
>>20
Yeah, I know what you mean.
You searched for some information and found some 2ch message
system dealt with it like I did before, I guess.
And I didn't know the articles was uploaded except for
Japan Times. Maybe there was someone interested in 2ch
by reading one of the online media.
>>21
>images don't rely so much on language...
(・∀・）＜I'll say!
Im get interested in 2ch after seeing Kikkoman flash. I download few more (chinko_onesan, etc) and found link to 2ch.
>>21
I am inclined to agree. Usually, the first thing a westerner notices about 2ch is some flash.
This kinda spreads after this happens initially, especially through popular weblogs (for instance: http://www.blogjam.com/2003/05/20/mona/).
>>12
Sorry for taking so long to reply to your points.
I think 4-ch will benefit of its users advertising it in any form.
However, I also think that 4-ch is too small right now and doesn't get enough contributions in order to make those people who would visit 4-ch once because of us advertising it stay for a longer time.
Thus I think it would be best if we started some little activity in here ourselves and keep the pace of posting and contributing up on a level that will keep users who check the site for the first time interested enough to come back for a second and third time.
With this in mind, I encourage you and everybody else to keep posting or start posting on 4-ch, not only here on the Japanese board but also on the other boards. Look around, and if there's anything catching your interest, don't hesistate to participate. 4-ch is free for all (as long as you abide by the rules) and the more people get this thing going and lively, the better.
I suggest we know what we have in common, I mean,
it's better to talk about some theme, so that the thread
is running.
> what we have in common
we're all posting on 4-ch~ ( ﾟｰﾟ)b
So you mean you want to talk about 4ch itself?
>>26
I am a young man.
>>29
By that you mean Sighjoh Hideki?
He's not so young that he can call himself young, though.
The suggestion that most English users hear of 2ch from 4chan is right. I first wanted to visit 2ch when I saw a Flash entitled "typewriter.swf" and thought it was funny even though I couldn't figure it out. It ended up being a musical about a 2ch poster getting angrier and angrier at someone who's every reply ended by including Mona with a huge set of balls. I still wish I could find what music was in that.
found 2ch when my website got linked on a 2ch thread and got over 150 users from japan in a day (up from around 10 users a day). Following back the HTTP_REFERER brought me to 2ch.
>>32
I guess your site attracted 2ch'ers because there's something about it. I'm interested in it, too.
What does your site deal with?
I'm a big evangelion fan.
Does anyone like evangelion fan?
You mean a kind of Japanese manga, right?
>>32
That's strange. AFAIK, 2ch has an automatic dereferer thing enabled for all the links posted in the forums.
Yeah, I get referrers from ime.nu on my website, not 2ch
okay, testing, one, two, three.
>>38
Oh, hi!
I'm the one who asked you to visit this board.
I'm glad you've come along!
>>38
Oh, hi!
I'm the one who asked you to visit this board.
I'm glad you've come along!
Oops, sorry.
I mistakenly posted two times.
So how many years have you been learning Japanese?
I thought you said you're Chinese.
And I studied Chinese a little before, though I found it
too complicated for me to master the language.
As a matter of fact, all I remember now is 我是学生.:)
加油 came to mind.
It is hooray or cheer up in English, right?
Oh, man, sorry. I totally forgot about this window. Maybe we can chat again some other day?
>>42 I've been learning Japanese for about two and a half years now. My teacher says I have the potential to learn the language easily but I have to spend more time practicing. Yes, I was born in China.
Yeah, one of the biggest reasons why I gave up on continuing my Chinese education was that the language just seemed too hard. I travelled a lot during my childhood and never had the opportunity to gain foundation studies in any language. Up to this point in my life, I've spent most of my years in Canada so I just picked up English as my primary language. "我是学生." means "I'm a student." right?
>>43 "加油"... I have no idea what that means. I can speak a bit of my province's dialect of Mandarin to communicate with my parents. I speak a tiny bit of standard Mandarin. I can understand most of my province's Mandarin and standard Mandarin. I can pick up a few lines of Cantonese after listening to my friends. And my writing and reading of Chinese in general is horrible.
Sure. why not?
Let's just take it easy.
Hope you come along again.
>>45
Is your teacher a native Japanese speaker?
If not, we'll be glad to help you when you come across difficult words or slangs you don't understand. Feel free to post them on the "Japanese online idioms" thread.
>>47 Yes, he has spent four to five years teaching English in Japan before teaching foreign languages in Canada.
>>48
I found it intriguing that Canada accomodates Japanese teachers because it's an English-speaking nation. I heard a joke before: People who speak two languages are called bilingual. People who speak three languages are trilingual. People who speak only one language are American.
I'm no racist at all, but the fact that almost all native English speakers who teach their language in Japan don't speak Japanese has made me think English-speaking people weren't bothered to learn another language, but it seems I'm a bit wrong. I hope your efforts bear fruits in the future.
About 加油, by the way, I may have seen the expression on banners when Chinese people assembled in a sports stadium and tried to cheer up their team. So I guessed it was like 頑張れ in Japanese.
Um, let me cancel "almost all"-I did a lot of generalizing-I put some of them instead. Sorry about that.
Japanese language is too hard to learn :(
That's why only few non-japanese people want to learn it...
I know what you mean. Actually, most Japanese people feel the same way as when learning English.
That being said, are you a learner of Japanese language?
I wonder if Japanese people think that learning languages like German, French or other Indogermanic languages is as difficult as learning English.
What do you mean?
German language is easier to learn?
Well, I guess not.
Learning to pronounce German should be a lot easier for Japanese people than learning to pronounce English, at least. English pronounciation is completely crazy.
On the other hand, though, does German language define every noun as male or femail, doesn't it? It seems crazy. I couldn't guess whether the Internet is male or femail, for example..
"We're" is sometimes pronunced as "W're", isn't it?
Where does the E sound go? Why do Americans pronunce "we'll" as "w'll"? It sure is crazy..
>>57
The E sound changes into a "schwa" when unstressed in American English. So the sound is still there, it's just changed because of stress. In "we're" the schwa is merged with the R after it to produce the rhotacized schwa "er" sound found in English and Mandarin Chinese. The same stress change is true for "we'll" which actually changes to something like "will", a mid-back vowel like schwa.
As you can see, stress change is very important in American English, especially when compared to British varieties. In British varieties the change from stressed to unstressed vowel doesn't usually change the vowel, but in American English it usually does.
>>56
Der Internet is masculine. Google gives 66,500,000 hits for "der Internet" and only 35,600,000 hits for neuter "das Internet". I can't search for feminine "die Internet" because it returns too many results in English, Afrikaans, and Dutch.
Learning English grammar is easier than German grammar. Learning English pronunciation is harder than German because English has many, many more vowels.
> Der Internet is masculine. Google gives 66,500,000 hits for "der Internet" and only 35,600,000 hits for neuter "das Internet".
You shouldn't trust Google on this. "Das Internet" is neuter in German. Your higher results for "der" can only be explained by flection in case of a combination of words in which the stem word defines the gender. Example:
"Kabel Deutschland erhöht Bandbreite der Internet-Anschlüsse"
This sentence talks about the numbers of internet accesses in Germany. Because of the plural of "Anschluß" and is in the genetive case, thus the article is "der".
"Internet" has a masculine gender in French (according to www.granddictionnaire.com/).
Also masculine in Italian (according to it.wordreference.com/).
And female in Spanish (es.wordreference.com/).
>>58-60
You guys are great language experts.About English pronunciation, then, "we're" sounds like "wer" in a way. Think schwa must be the key to improving one's pronunciation. Is there any other example you think is caracteristic of American English pronunciation? When I watch American TV dramas such as 24 or Baffy, I sometimes find Sutherland/Nicholas Brendon mumbling and miss what they say. I'm curious to know what you think about it.
Don't worry too much about various accents, it's not very important.
Always remember to put "" around your searching terms in Google:
Without ""
der internet の検索結果 約 33,700,000 件中 1 - 10 件目 (0.05 秒)
http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&q=der+internet&btnG=Google+%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2&lr=
das internet の検索結果 約 27,500,000 件中 1 - 10 件目 (0.03 秒)
http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&q=das+internet&btnG=Google+%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2&lr=
With ""
"der internet" の検索結果 約 765,000 件中 1 - 10 件目 (0.23 秒)
http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&q=%22der+internet%22&btnG=Google+%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2&lr=
"das internet" の検索結果 約 2,470,000 件中 1 - 10 件目 (0.24 秒)
http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=ja&q=%22das+internet%22&btnG=Google+%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2&lr=
Concerning pronunciation, some Japanese webmasters (greatly famous among English learners in Japan) emphasized importance of English pronunciation, saying, "if you can't pronunce English correctly, then you'll face the deadlock in learning the language or can't listen to it" or something like that. And I find it somewhat true because unlike the languages in Europe, Japanese pronunciation is far from that of English, especially American. Even "for here or to go" can't be correctly listened to by most Japanese people. One reason is because of what they call reductions/assimilations. It's hard for us to get the hang of them. That's why the web administrators urges/encourages us to stick to the pronunciation. We need to practice, practice, practice not only to pronunce well but also to listen well. By the way, though, I don't need to worry about it on the Internet since we can communicate with alphabet.
Doesn't Buffy come with subtitles or something?
For example in the UK when one watches TV one can turn on subtitles. What's spoken is at the same time written as text on screen. Very helpful to connect the spoken sentence to the written word.
Or, in Holland most English shows are left in English and there are Dutch subtitles. Not as good a learning tool as the UK's one but still useful to connect the meaning to the spoken sentence.
In Japan I heard that most English movies are subtitled rather than dubbed. You have there an invaluable tool to learn the foreign language. Even if you don't pay attention there is a learning process at work here. I have been watching anime subtitled since two years and there are a lot of words and sentences that I have memorized thanks to that.
>Doesn't Buffy come with subtitles or something?
Yes, it does. Both subtitles and dubbed Japanese are available. But the subtitles and what's spoken isn't always matched, I'm sorry. What you said is convincing and I don't disagree with you, but I guess there's a difference between English learners in Japan and those who learn Japanese language. When many of us Japanese listen to English, the language sometimes sounds like &%@*;][;>\$#. What do they pronunce? Things like that happen to even somewhat exprienced learners.
>Very helpful to connect the spoken sentence to the written word.
BTW, if an English show without subtitles are broadcast in the UK, do they make out what's spoken in the program because of the broadcasters' pronunciation?
>What do they pronunce?
You mean "what accent do they have"? That depends where they are from.
As for the "for here or to go" is so often said that some will say it as one word. It may sound like "for here [] to go" or "forheretogo". It becomes a word in itself. No need anymore to try to split the sentence into words. Just memorize the "forheretogo" sound and it's meaning, I would say.
I once learned a language without learning the words. I just memorized the full sentences people were saying and asked for the meanings. Soon I was able to speak fluently with the natives. Sometimes I would even be mistaken for a native! (but not for long, only at a first contact). I never studied any grammar for that language.
>if an English show without subtitles are broadcast in the UK, do they make out what's spoken in the program because of the broadcasters' pronunciation?
I don't understand the question. Who is "they"? The viewers? The viewers are supposed to know English.
>67
> It becomes a word in itself.
>Just memorize the "forheretogo" sound and it's meaning
That's it. But it's hard to understand where the "or" goes...This is a mistery to us.
>in the UK when one watches TV one can turn on subtitles
I meant the viewers. I thought they were not always used to other's pronunciation or accents. So they need subtitles. What do they turn on subtitles for, then?
The subtitles are there for the deaf people.
In addition to the subtitled dialog you get also information that deaf people would not hear. For example "(Music starts playing in the background)".
How do they do in Japan for the deaf people?
>>69
I see. And I'm afraid most of the TV programs in Japan, as far as I know, doesn't subtitle what's spoken. Besides, if subtitles are usable, you might need a customised TV set if you want them, though audible explanations are available on usual sets. And it's my fault but what I said about Buffy applies to a situation where one watches DVDs, not where he watches TV dramas (I mean if Buffy was broadcast on TV, I wouldn't turn on subtitles, because my TV set is not customised). Just to clarify, TV stations broadcast either dubbed or subtitled overseas movies (in prime hours, Japanese-dubbed movies are major), but we can't get both of them at once.
It's very interesting to know how different things are from a nation to another. Thanks you and sorry my English is hard to understand. I appreciate your gentle attitude toward me.
I think I just remembered, "加油" means to give it all you've got. I think it means "ganbare" or "huiato". 加 literally means "add" and 油 is "oil". The term is pronounced "jia you" in Mandarin. I'm not too sure about my Ping Ying.
Oh and all this discussion of television series and movies with the subbing and dubbing... I'd much rather have subtitles only. I barely focus on the text and it really helps when you're learning the language. I just recently downloaded 10 episodes of MTV's Downtown and found out that they had French subtitles. Because I understood what they were actually saying and a bit of French, thanks to Canada's bilingual education, it's obvious that there are just some terms or phrases that are left out or changed during the process of subbing because it just wouldn't make sense in another language/culture.
I love Buffy the Vampire Slayer and 24. In fact, in North America, the 4th season of 24 is almost over. I can't wait for the season finale. Buffy has been long over and I'll probably watch the series slowly over summer vacation by renting the DVDs from my local video store.
Mostly, anything that gets broadcast on TV, and also movies, avoid using too heavy accents, because it is true that English speakers will not always understand each others accents. I've seen subtitles used for heavy accents, but this is more often done as a joke.
Speaking to real people is very different. If people you talk to have a heavy accent and do not make an effort to speak more clearly, it might very well be impossible to understand them (at least until you've listened to them enough to start understanding the accent).
Listening to a foreign language is always much harder than reading it. I can read Japanese to some extent (at least if I have a dictionary), but listening to it is much harder, except for really simple sentences. I'm pretty good at listening to English (I am not a native speaker), but watching a TV show entirely in English with no subtitles still means I have to concentrate a lot more than watching it subtitled.
> I think I just remembered, "加油" means to give it all you've got. I think it means "ganbare" or "huiato". 加 literally means "add" and 油 is "oil". The term is pronounced "jia you" in Mandarin. I'm not too sure about my Ping Ying.
I can confirm that. Second-generation, half-illiterate speaker comin' at ya =)
> I'm no racist at all, but the fact that almost all native English speakers who teach their language in Japan don't speak Japanese has made me think English-speaking people weren't bothered to learn another language, but it seems I'm a bit wrong. I hope your efforts bear fruits in the future.
Maybe that's because there are teaching programs that will accept native speakers who don't know any Japanese...I find that rather surprising, though, because you're right--a foreign language teacher should speak both languages fluently. Is there such a demand for English teachers in Japan?
I've wondered if maybe that could be dependent on how we learn the language. They say "immersion" teaching is quite effective, where you are placed in an environment that requires you to speak and listen to only the foreign language. So maybe it just depends on which form you learn first - verbose or written.
____
By the way, have you guys heard of a recent HBO TV show heard "Carnivàle"? I've been hearing nothing but good things about it.
>Is there such a demand for English teachers in Japan?
I think yes, but as you said, it's sure as well that there are English teaching schools which offer the programs in which native speakers don't need any knowledge on Japanese language to teach us English-I've heard the word immersion teaching as well. As a matter of fact, I've seen recently lots of English speaking people when I got on the train, though most of the cases I came across, they were not with Japanese-maybe it was hard/exhousting for them to hang out with their students after school. That said, if you speak Japanese, you're more competitive. Let me take an interesting example. A few years ago, a Canadian male who spoke Japanese very well came to pay a visit to 2ch and set up his own webpage before he wrote books in Japanese and published them, which I think were selling well. I can see many other books written by native speakers. I myself bought some of them.:)
>I can read Japanese to some extent
Yeah, I know you can! I sometimes feel some of English speaking
people here is great and have good knowledge on languages, including Japanese. That makes me awestruck.
加油是对的。
For any Japanese here who can read somewhat good english, or even any English speakers here, I highly recommend you go to this excellent blog on life of an American preschool English teacher who worked in Japan. ttp://savagepencil.typepad.com/
Excite's translations aren't that bad. But it would do you good to read it in English because I find it is quite well written for a blog.
You might want to start from the beginning, or read certain categories by going here: ttp://savagepencil.typepad.com/confessions/archives.html
I'm wondering whether there are any foreign people involved in the animation industry in Japan. I've seen 2 foreign names so far in Production I.G.'s credits for Ghost in the Shell:SAC. One was a Theresia Winkler, and the other one was a Benjamin something.
I invited 2ch. Let's see if they come have a ball here.
For a laugh, check out this translation thread on 2ch:
http://academy3.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1117992522/31
Some dick puts "I hope you whack off" in the middle of a translation, and when I call him on it nobody believes me. If it wasn't so ridiculous I'd probably be pissed off, lol.
Don't feel paranoid, the posts calling your bluff were probably all from one guy. (jisakujien)
Posting in a dead thread.
hello
>>76
I took an interest in your information,so Tried the first one.
But I failed to get access to that URL.
What a bummer !
>>85
ty
Yesterday my best friend died of a massive siesure. Life sucks, I'll go kill myself now...lol, j/k. My fianceé has helped me cope with it for now.
For God's sake,don't put down such a serious matter in this board. I'm speechless. You make me feel depressed.
Is your fiancee hawt? Put a piece of fruit in her ass, like a cucumber or zucchini...
Hello! This thread appears to be dead... Anyway, I just wanted to say hi! Are there any Japanese people here who would like to talk about Japanese/English... stuff?
>>91
i dont know
hello
hi
i'm sad
>>91
why are you interested in 2ch?
unless you let me know the reason,
i won't teach you anything.
おまいなんで２ちゃんに興味があるのか教えれ。ヽ(`Д´)ノ
話はそれからだ。
sorry.
it seems i didn't make sense of you.
In the begining of this thread, there were a bunch of people making generalized statements about the way people pronounce things in America. and this kind of just irked me. There is a HUGE range of dialects across America so it is impossible to say "American English" because there really is no such thing. I'm going to pick on 57 58 and 61 for a bit. Now, I moved to America when I was 4, from Hilversum, so learning English wasn't really much of a problem for me. You can't just hear one thing and say "damnit, why do the Americans pronounce it so!?" _------__-- .. I've completly lost my train of thought. What I'm trying to say is, just, don't generalize things so much.
In the begining of this thread, there were a bunch of people making generalized statements about the way people pronounce things in America. and this kind of just irked me. There is a HUGE range of dialects across America so it is impossible to say "American English" because there really is no such thing. I'm going to pick on 57 58 and 61 for a bit. Now, I moved to America when I was 4, from Hilversum, so learning English wasn't really much of a problem for me. You can't just hear one thing and say "damnit, why do the Americans pronounce it so!?" _------__-- .. I've completly lost my train of thought. What I'm trying to say is, just, don't generalize things so much.
"American English" is probably more or less California/West Coast English, since that's what most people are familiar with. Midwest English seems to me to be the most similar to that.
Hey English speaker,please japanese
hi!
Is there anyone?
Is there anyone?
No.
hello!
ぽろりと
Hello! Is there anyone?
HowdoIJapanese?
Do I have to drink tea?
I'd rather have milk with cookies :-)
>>114
Oatmeal... with big pieces of date in them. ('A`)
Hallo
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Hey hows everyone doing?, i'm new to this site.
i'm watching train man right now, thats how i found the site by watching the movie, i think this site rocks, so hows everyone doing? (o_o)
>>119 hi hows it going?
hey jenny good. and you?
I'm fine, so hows it going?
Very good. what country are u from
i'm from the country (USA) Mount Vernon, Washington. and where are u from?
Hi:) Anyone from Japan or Europe? Or someone to talk?
I'm from sydney australia jenny ;)
hi :D
Im japanese in japan
Can you help me? I'm looking for some Japanese stream radio without music, only talk. It's perfect for learning pronunciation and I really need it because my Japanese pronunciation is horrible. :)
http://www.j-wave.co.jp/radiobar/ms_contents.htm
this is not only talk,but I know only this one
click the ' START' (red)
How about trying the following URLs.
NHK
http://www.nhk.or.jp/
http://www.nhk.or.jp/englishtop/RADIO JAPAN ONLINE
http://www.nhk.or.jp/rj/index_e.htmlNHK World Japanese Lessons web site
http://www.nhk.or.jp/lesson/>>136 Do you have some experience with finding job in Japan?
Sorry, I don't live in Japan... I live in Central-Europe (Holland).
>>138 I live in Central-Europe too (Slovakia). I'm just trying :)
You know ... what if ... :).
How's it today in Holland?
so hows everything i just got back from LA it was great, i'm brand new person, my personality has grown in two weeks and i'm on a journey to look for a single man, i have strength, to carry out the long mission now>>129
hello!im japanese.women.25
japan is night time
someone in here?
I'm Here.
me two i'm here as well
me two i'm here as well
me two i'm here as well
ネカマ乙
hi
Stu のブログ
hows it going everyone it's 12:09 in the morning in washington.
hi!everyone.....
hi
Hi, I'm from Connecticut.
Free Hug
Navigation
Follow theses steps
hello!
I'm from Germany it's 17:35 PM but it feels like 2 AM.
lol 17:35 PM seems a bit redundant. I told you I was tired
You is a big fool man.
anyone there??
Isn't this thread a bit superfluous?
Indeed it is
hello from east siberia. it's raining today, and i'm a bit bored. :)
hello maybe we chat please write too me this time okey bye
I'm in united states!
I have cookies. Are there any really popular brands of cookie in Japan? A lot of supermarkets here have their own brands, but the nation-wide one is called Chips Ahoy (which is a pun on the phrase Ship Ahoy, meaning "I see a ship". It's a nautical term). There are other brands like Keebler, which is represented by a bunch of weird elves who live in a tree. They make better cookies than Chips Ahoy though.
>>163 I finally got internet, so how have you been, relationship wise for me not really good, so hows life for you?
>>163 hows it going it's been awhile since i've talk to you?
なんで欧米の国々が捕鯨に反対するのか、それは日本の鯨食、魚を食べる文化が
世界に広まれば牛などの家畜を生産している国が売れなくなり困るからです。
それで偽善の慈善団体グリーンピースやシーシェパードなどを使い洗脳宣伝活動を
行わせ、さらには大企業などに脅しをかけ表での活動資金を調達しているのです。
裏ではもちろん潤沢な資金が特定の所から流れています。日本人が発言をすれば
必ず変わります。これらの偽善慈善団体に抗議のメールを出しましょう。英語でなくとも
ＯＫです。
hello
ZENZENYOMENAIYO!!
EIGOWAKARIMASENN><
Hey, somebody is there
>>173 hey jenny i've been fine. busy tho.. :D good to see u back
what does zenzen mean?
zenzen = at all
>>174 I think whaling is ok as long as the species is properly managed. We must preserve our natural resources for future generations. 寿司が美味しいです
>>177 JYAA KURUNAYO KASU
Hmmm... Hi all. I would like find smb from Japan to learn language or just for talk and fun... And I want cookies too )
>>184 a friend of mine uses Skype to chat with some japanese people. They both try to speak & understand english though. :)
I'm making green tea for myself right now, but i don't have any cookies. I've got something better, a Tulskiy pryanik! :) (a honey-cake from Tula).
こんなところがあったのか。
記念ｶｷｺ
hi
is it a dead zone?:)
I'm depressed. Everybody at my job just hates the living daylights out of me. I'm not a very interesting person and they all find this to be annoying. When I walk into the office I get a resounding vibe from the entire personnel to just quit, or die. It's incredibly awkward, but hey, I need the money, so what can I do? Last week I was so down in the dumps that I huffed paint in the car before work just to give me a quick high. When I walked into the office Sheila, the secretary, asked me what all that silver stuff was around my mouth and I said it was milk but then thought milk? wtf? so I said NO its shaving cream and then scuttled into the bathroom to wipe it off. When I looked at myself in the mirror jesus christ did i look fucked up, like i was a fucking halfdead demon going bald and falling apart. under the fluorescent lights my teeth were almost pure yellow. sometimes i feel like making a nail out of the heaviest metal and setting it in the freezer overnight, then taking it out and standing it up by hammering it through a thin but sturdy board and just ramming my forehead right into it, right into the heaviest cold metal to fucking CHARGE MY BRAIN UP into ultimate concentration.
>>189
That's...quite bad. But I know how you feel.
just wondering if most ppl in this thread is Japanese or not
well... I my self is not Japanese though...
i feel japanese.
That's not really good if you are not satisfied being a man of your native land.
I would like visit Japan, China, Korea and other asian countries in the future, but i don't think i can live there for a long time. Although i'm very interested in asian culture and people. :)
Hi every one ! I want to meet and talk with some one by English and Japanese language . Because my skill speaking and writing are still bad .
Hey guys! I was looking for transsexual porn and found this forum.
So uh, like, how's everybody doing?
Come check out the other boards on 4-ch, we have all the porn you ever need. Well, not really :v
>>198
Okay, thanks man!
>>179 It has been awhile ^_^
So, Whats new with, you, i haven't talked to you in along time?
>>179 I'm name which is ジェニファー ( Jennifer In English ^^) Just on my this site ^^ for now on.
>>196
>>198
I spliced some of that together the other day.
http://4-ch.net/ascii/kareha.pl/1183559524/13
>>196
Why does it seem like you were looking for 4-chan instead of 4-ch? (no insult to 4-chan intended, but seriously... >_>;;;)
Hello everybody.
It is a nice which I found by chance.
Is there anyone who would like talk with me, you are always welcome.
Free talk, just let your soul relax.
What the sales point of Scottish wiskey?
>>1
I don't intend to be rude, but it's "speak English", not "talk English".
On a side note, I just attempted to give everyone a cookie through ASCII art and when I press the | key without the shift pressed down, I get \. Anyone care to explain this to me?
This is yang from chn,
This is yang from chn,
yeah you havent mistaken.
>>210 Sorry it took me forever to respond to your message, it's been a busy couple of weeks, so hows it going for you, is there anything new with you?, Theres alot of new things new with me ^^, So i Hope to hear from you soon ^^
what new things? :-) I'm going to taipei for a few weeks holiday :D
>>209
hi there! you are here! I always see you
in 2channel! ^^
¡Hola! ¿Cómo están?
Heaven is a dickhead :D
hey
I'm an otaku of the evangelion
Who can flight with me to watch the rebuild of evangelion at a theater in japan?
anyway
I dont have enough money for trip so I need someon's helps.
:D :D :D up ya go@
sleepy
This thread almost dead...?
It's fucking dead.
No it can stay alive! If we all just believe! lol
Eh.Most japanese/english threads are a good idea, but, there is always some asshole making the japanese person feel like a dumbass.
If you guys really want to share, showing some manners is a good start.
Now, i am not saying anyone here is being an ass, but i have seen it in many other similar threads on similar boards.
I have noticed, that most japaneese ALWAYS start with "Hello, It's nice to meet you."
It's just polite, so try and return the favor with "Hello, it's nice to meet you too." or "Hajimamishite" <spell check> which means the same thing.
fuckin' mashitay.
I am Zapanese (English version)
uri ha nihonjin nida
hi!
ニックネーム可能でめる恋は、お客様の個人情報める恋は、お客様の個人情報 =) do you also think so????
I am very disappointed with life.
With all of life.
ジイングさん、could you be kind enough to write English as this particular thread is intended for English, not Japanese, conversation. あいがとう。
>>234
Ugh, I feel the same way. Nothing feels worth the effort anymore. It's probably because it's my last year in my community college. If I can just hang in there for a few more months I'll transfer to University and things won't suck as bad. I only did this because it was cheaper, but lord, this campus is soul-crushingly boring. I hate it.
>>237
Hah, no one bothered to respond to my poast. I'll just move it to PI.
Hey anons - How is everyone this morning?
How would anon respond to this:
Me:Hey~, Remember me...? We had coquet-conversations in messages....(Joke).
You never replied back to me -- You were being so gregarious towards me. You must find me boring now? :((
Her:Ah sorry O_o
I've been busy so I don't really check messages that much anymore...so I end up deleting most of them
-Can anon give me a witty/facetious way to respond back to something like that? I want to make her laugh. Something that she would find worth responding back on. My social skills seem to be going down the dumps lately, I'm feeling so incoherent of late.
I was thinking of saying: "Sounds like a excuse to me".
Yeah, it's lame. I want to write something medium and long. Please anons help me here.
Here's some cookies. Have some others already brought cookies? Have some more!
>>239
"Oh no! I spent tons of hours writing those. My time...deleted."
hi
Well, I arrived a little late in this thread, but I'd be glad to help with English grammar, articulation and pronunciation.
I could, perhaps, even make a video explaining how to pronounce certain things.
hahaha
I like men who look like ladies.
I think I'm too beardy for that. :>
I'd like you to put on make-up.
I wear a size 8 dress... God, I'm so fat.
I don't know much about the sizes of dresses.
But I guess "size 8" means 100, 100, 100.
Generally, we call it "Doramukan"(drum)
FACT: 98.78% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD ARE NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS
fuck jesis
I say again
fuck jesis
You misspelled "Jesus"
>>254
That's my favorite Stryper song.
Sadly, I don't speak Japanese, but I'd be glad to help anyone who wants to learn English. ^_^
Im studying English.
Hello,Everyone!
-‐ '´￣￣｀ヽ､
／ ／" ｀ヽ ヽ）└＼
//, '/ ヽﾊ⌒､ ヽ
〃 {_{ ⌒ ⌒ ﾘ| ｌ │ i|
ﾚ!小ｌ（ ●） （●） 从 |、i|
ヽ|l::⌒（__人__）⌒::: |ﾉ│<Hi!
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＼ /:::::| l＞ ,`ー' イァ/ /│
. /:::::/| | ヾ:::|三/::{ﾍ､__∧ |
｀ヽ< | | ヾ∨:::/ヾ:::彡' |
where the fuck is everyone?
This is a ghost town.
This is iichan, it's a slow board. I'm tired from work. I'm going to play some video games and go to bed.
僕は日本語を習います、日本人の友達が出来れば嬉しくなる、僕のMSNはPhenstyle@yahoo.comです、友達になりませんか？
ステファン君
公共の場にメールアドレスを掲示するのは危険だ。
まず、このBBSで交流しよう。
我々日本人は君を歓迎するよ。
Tokyo sucks. there's no heaven.
hi ......i am from China .nice to meet u all .....i am here for japanese learning
>>273
Welcome!
Japanese chicks are phuckin' awesome.
>>276
http://bp3.blogger.com/_a7jkcMVp5Vg/R215TMhM3gI/AAAAAAAACzo/XD-V-mO_AaM/s400/love.jpg
It's people like you that made someone write this PostSecret.
Active thread for chatter in English of the english board of 2ch.
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1198673379/l50
>>279
Perseverance is the key. Keep trying!
Any language is tough, but you must do your best to surround yourself with the language. Try reading things in English as much as possible. If your favourite websites have English versions, try using them. Even try talking to yourself in your best English!
Surround yourself with the language in many different ways. It has been working for me (although with Spanish rather than English. it should still help you.)
If you just keep posting on messageboards with English people, I'm sure you'll master the language in no time!
Make sure they write proper English, though...
Happy New Year to all!
you think english is difficult? try learning french
lol where is the japanese version of this?
What do you mean?
You want to chat in Japanese? Or are you searching for "Chat in English" threads in Japanese communities?
Yesterday I talked to a girl on the phone everyone - It's been 2004 since I last talked to a girl. Well, back then I still didn't talk much to girls. Incidentally, I'm an recluse (Japanese equivalent "Hikikomori"; in some sense)? and I don't like talking to much to people, not even my family or friends. All I do is internet/gaming eat and fap. I've been in my room ever since i graduated from high school (2004).
That said, it was nice hearing a girls voice after all this time. I'm not very social at ALL and I was quiet most of the time speaking with her. She wants me to call her again later tonight. but something is holding me back. ._.
By the way, I meant her on Myspace. After conversing with her, she gave her phone number to me w/o my asking. So yeah. She's korean and very pretty (nice too). Though theres a narrow age gap between us - I'm 23 she's 16, not to bad I suppose.
Wish me luck anons.
>>288
Good luck!
But.. good luck with what? Are you trying to go directly from hikki to a relationship? Unpossible!
I'm still waiting for Jenny
>>290 Hey Hows it going, Sorry its been so long.
i think french is really easy actually
jenny is cool :D
I'm sort of a recluse, but I talk to people a lot. Unfortunately, when I talk to women, I don't know whether or not I'm holding their attention. I think I'm boring...
>>296 Hi, it's been along time my friend, how are you doing, sorry if it took so long to reply. Elephant ROCKS ^_^
I am in Sydney Australia. where are you?
>>299 Hey, I'm in Mount Vernon,Washington (USA) ^_^
>>299 How are you doing ^_^, it's been along time since i've on here, but i finally have more time.
big one and piss isn't food so don't eat lol
>>301
What is the figures after your name?
Do you have to call out all of them when I call your name?
If so, I don't wnat to make friends with you because calling your name will make me exhausted all the time. lol
Oh, my... I made a terrible mistake !
Correction
>>301
What are the figures after your name?
Do I have to call out all of them when I call your name?
If so, I don't want to make friends with you because calling your full name will make me feel exhausted.
>>304
I don't think jenny55972002 really cares if you type out all the numbers after her name. I don't think anyone would expect you to do so.
>>305 Is this more convenient?, shortened my screen name.
is Mount Vernon a mountain jenny :D?
>>307 No, But I Live north of the city of Seattle, But there is alot of mountains around where i live Mount vernon is a city :D
>>302 Kids, never eat trains, especially ones which can fly in space. Your dentist will hate you forever.
Apparently I can't post to 2ch any longer. Great.
As far as I can tell, the error message I'm getting says "Foreign domain restricted (.se) ... Use a 2ch viewer." -- would that mean that the whole .se top level domain is blocked? Or should I read this as "Your domain, which is in .se, is blocked."?
Annoying, either way. I guess I'll have to try and find a proxy now.
Hello. I'm a new user of this board. Please excuse me if I make a faux pas.
Anyway, is it true that Niconico douga has a "narrower" audience than Youtube? That is, unlike with Youtube, most of the people who go to Niconico douga are the same kind of person? As a person who spends most of his life in front of the computer, these sorts of useless facts interest me.
I don't know if I'm wording my question in an understandable way, so I'll apologize in advance for any confusion.
>>310 Do not panic, this is just a technology-based extension to the "no gaijins allowed" signs which have been popular for years, a hallmark of perhaps the most racist nation in the world.
>>312
Well, maybe. It's understandable that certain large ISPs who generate a large amount of crap would be blocked. But a whole country? Or my tiny local ISP? Makes no sense.
>>310
I am a regular Neet poster in 2ch's "chat in English" thread.
I want you to come back there by findig a good way, although
I don't know much about proxy things.
The more people who are interested in Japanese gather there, the more fun the place gets.
>>311
I searched for info about it on the net, and found the niconico douga's press release.
Acording to that, as of March 20th 2008, subscribers of niconico douga has reached 6 million people.
If you can read Japanese, check here.
http://blog.nicovideo.jp/niconews/2008/03/001026.html
Niconico's users are limited almost to Japanese people so it's natural that users of niconico are far less than youtube users. Niconico is based on Japanese language only while youtube is based on English, which is the language whose speakers are a lot more than Japanese speakers and youyube is doing localization which means if you access youtube from Japan, the pages of youtube are shown basically in Japanese. If you access it from China, then pages are shown in Chinese.
Even if you live in US, if you change settings then pages of youtube can be seen in your preferable language, say, Italian or whatever.
>>314
I saw that you reposted >>310 to "Chat in English" - thank you!
It seems that posting from university does not work, and I'm not having much luck with proxies either. Most 2ch viewers won't work, since I don't run Windows. (I'm not sure how that would help anyway.)
There are a couple of other things to try, but it doesn't seem very promising. Ah well. Maybe the block will be lifted...
Another English poster here and I'm getting the same error. It seems like a recent thing as I was able to post just a few days ago.
>>316
Ah, you saw my post there!
>>316-317
I don't know why 2ch block users from overseas. Maybe 2ch's servers can't handle traffic from overseas anymore? Or some people from overseas cyber attack 2ch so access from overseas started to be banned?
One American 2ch user in youtube board of 2ch all of a sudden
was denied access to 2ch a few days ago. Below is a post by a Japanese giving him advice in which he tells him three ways to be able to access 2ch again, The post is the same as >>97 of
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1207506976/
I tried translate it in English.
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There are only three ways. C
Change your ISP or buy a 2ch viewer, or look for proxy thatis not banned by 2ch.
http://2ch.tora3.net/
The URL above is not "2ch.net" but it is 2ch's official website and not suspicious. The website says "2ch viewer" but in this case it doesn't mean 2ch exclusive use browser but it's more like a "Right to use 2ch." Even if you buy this right, you can't access to 2ch with IE or Firefix so the "right" comes with 2ch exclusive use browser.
・N.T.Technology
This is a company that manage 2ch's servers.
Most of 2ch's servers are in USA.
This company also manages 2ch's viewer(=●)
Jim from N.T.Technology PIE
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=CHWi2-R0uM0
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=JitcAwajlNA
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I don't think you'll bother change your ISP just to post in 2ch. Plus, there's no guarantee that 2ch'll accept access from your new ISP. ● costs 350yen(3.5USD) a month or if you pay yearly fee in sigle payment then US$33.00.
Looking for proxies seems the best idea. I don't know much about proxy things but I heard some proxies are already banned by 2ch. So it may not be easy to find a effective proxy.
Or as you say, just wait until 2ch lift blocks.
Anyway, I hope you guys can post in 2ch again soon!
>>315
That's not quite what I meant--I was not asking about the number of people who visit niconico douga, but the type of people.
For example, perhaps I am incorrect, but: from the comments, those on niconico douga seem much more pleasant than those on youtube.
Then again, I could be incorrect--perhaps it only seems that way because I visit youtube more often, and thus have seen more impolite comments.
I just posted to 2ch a minute ago with no problems. I'm in the US, by the way.
Maybe it's just certain boards where you can't post, or it may be a temporary thing.
>>319
Now I understand what you meant.
Well, niconico douga's videos have their shares of abusive comments, too. (alothough, that depends on videos you watch, I guess.) Actually, I was surprised to read that you think niconico video has better comments from users than youtube.
I don't watch youtube videos posted by people other than Japanese people often so maybe I don't know much about comments
posted on videos by American or British or whatever. But as far as comments on videos posted by Japanese people, they are less abusive than those of niconico's. That's my impression. It's fuynny that you and I have exact opposit impression on these two
movie websites.
This may not be off the track of your question but I'm under the impression that niconico has more dense population of Japanese Otaku people and more anime related videos. This my be because niconico's people tend to double as 2channelers.
But as the statistics show that nicinico's subscribers has reached 6 million, people other than otaku actually has subscribed to it, it seems. In case of 2channel, too, it's otaku population was dense at the early stage of the forum but now general people (people other than otaku) use it, too.
But Both 2channel and niconico still have big influence of otaku people intact in my opinion.
>>317
Where are you (posting) from? You said "English poster", but I guess you mean the English board. Come to think about it, I haven't seen イギリス人さん posting in a while either.
>>318
Thank you for the tips. I believe a proxy would be best, but it seems that all proxys I can find are blocked. (Or they just don't work.) I'll try posting from an ISP in the .com or .net domains next.
>>320
Yeah, I can see US posters all the time. The problem is that as far as I can tell, my entire country is blocked - and this is on the "English" board, which is about the only place I really can post, given that I'm really just at beginner level Japanese.
When I went to Italy I could post to 2ch,No prob.
Many Japanese living in Europe and USA or another country,
always post 2ch.
:) i need some sleep
I'm posting from the United States in the English board. Well I guess trying to post would be a better way of saying it.
288 here,
Things didn't turnout so well. I don't think i can actually care/love for a girl because i get too jealous and i need attention a lot. I'm a HUGE stalker as well. :(
Meh, she was boring anyway.
>>327
Do you find yourself becoming less and less socialized during your reclusive time?
I mean, if you don't talk much, your communication skills worse and worse from my experience and think like celf-centered.
Going out with a girl vertually on the net or not help you have
socializing experiencess, so I would say you should take advantages of that kind of occasions.
Sorry if I sound judgemental but, before you say going out with a girl is not your cup of tea, you should try it. Just live and learn while you are still young.
>>327
Pretend to be a protagonist from a visual novel.
Those guys are usually pillars of morality, often to a ridiculous extent, right?
I see people are talking about the blocking issue right now.
Chat in English (英語で雑談) Part 112
Is anyone else here in Sweden, and have you been able to post there lately? It would be nice to know if it's the whole .se top domain that is blocked, or not. (So far I've tried three different ISPs, and my university, with no luck.)
>>314 Still here? Say hello from me.
Jenny is the coolest poster :D
HELLO JAPANESE
I AM HAPPY YANKEE
YOU ARE A LIAR!
>>330
Yeah, I'm here. I'll copy and pate your post there.
Hmmm... You tried more than 3 ISPs and sitll no luck...
Maybe 2ch seems to be having a tough approach to posters from overseas...
Some days ago, 2ch was threatned by DDOS attacks from Korean ISPs and didn't function. The attack seemed to be done aiming at the busiest time for 2ch, which is at night. I heard that it took a few hours for 2ch to get on the normal track.
I heard 2ch had similar collective attacks from China, too.
Sweden has nothing to do with those attacks so I don't understand why accesses from Sweden or maybe from other countries are blocked.
I hope you'll be able to post as before as soon as possible.
>>330
I'm still able to post fine, just haven't been so active
lately due to work. We had a discussion about why it may not
be letting some foreigners post, but apparently no specific
countries are blocked. One guy was saying that 2ch just didn't
like open proxies, and that some ISPs have a problem because
of them, but I still don't see how that really has anything to
do with it.
Some people have been saying that 2ch reader apps can sometimes
get around these blocks, so have you tried any of those? I don't
really see how that would work either, but I guess it's worth a try.
http://janestyle.s11.xrea.com/
The error I'm getting is 「海外ドメイン規制(se)。」. To me that looks like a block on the whole country. (But I'm just at beginner level, so...)
>>334
I'll be back, but it might take some time.
>>335
Yes - I was fearing the worst for a while, but it's nice to see that you can still post.
Didn't you need a US$ 30/year subscription too, to get around domain blocks? That's what I thought from the discussion, and some Googling. Besides, I need to find a reader that works for Unix, I don't even have Windows at home.
>>336
I use this on Linux: http://jd4linux.sourceforge.jp/
I have no idea how any reader would help you with blocks though.
>>336
Argh... it does sound like a countrywide block. Though I'm
wondering if it's just that your hostname ends in .se, rather
than .net, .com, etc. Perhaps your ISP changed the hostname
format, which might be why it came into effect out of the
blue.
As for the 2ch 'Gold Account', that's right, it's about $30
(from http://2ch.tora3.net/) and seems to be a sort of
white-listing service. As for readers, so far I've only found
a Windows one (Jane Style) and a Mac/OS one (Thousand), but
will have a search and try to find a Unix-compatible one.
>>337
I only have a vague idea, but I think you need a reader to use the subscription service. Or something.
>>338
It is most likely the fact that I have .se hostname, yes... And as far as I can tell, it hasn't changed.
The good news is that I have to change ISPs soon anyway, so it's only a matter of finding one that uses a .net or .com domain for its customers instead. Hopefully. Paying for 2ch seems a little weird for someone like me who can't really post anything intelligent in 99% of all threads. (Yet.)
I'm posting from .sg and every single time, no matter what board, I always get this message
書きこみが終わりました。
画面を切り替えるまでしばらくお待ち下さい。
and it never changes. And the post is never made．I simply have no way of getting around this, I tried using 2ch browsers but it didn't help either. Wargh!
Here, have a double chocolate chip cookie I got from Subway's... つ●
ﾑｼｬﾑｼｬ
(｀･ω･´)
(ノ●＼)
>>340
Have you ever tried and click your browser's "back" botton
to get back to the thread after the message are shown?
After getting back to the thread in which you're posting your comment, click "reload" botton, then, you can check your comment
is posted or not.
I haven't used 2ch browsers and I am Japanese posting from Japan
so what I worte above mey not help you, though.
Of course I did that, I'd refresh the thread to see if my post appeared... 100% of the time, it doesn't appear. No matter how many times I repost. It's like the "書き込みが終わりました" is a lie!
I wonder if it's to do with the way the ISPs configure internet connections here, they put large groups of users under one big proxy server (I'm bad at understanding how internet connections work but it's like how a huge amount of people end up having the same address)
Glad you enjoyed the cookie, I liked it too. I treated myself to a small bag of handmade Famous Amos cookies, but I finished eating it (´・ω・｀)
Bored, bored, bored.
>>342
It sounds like a trick to confuse spambots.
Do you get the same thing if you try to post from somewhere else? (work/school, friend)
Yeah :( I've tried internet cafes, schools, friends' houses... same error.
I managed to post there ONCE using a Canadian proxy they hadn't picked up on yet. Next time I tried they detected it.
Wait....so 2ch blocks all foreign IPs? I just went into 2ch and saw a bunch of threads on some board.
>>346
As far as I know, even if your IP is blocked, you can see threads but you can't post if your IP is blocked.
I don't think all foreign IPs are blocked. Some people from overseas can post.
hey wassup,bullshit vanila ice!
I'm Fuckin' monkey!
nice to meet u!
Yeah, thank god they don't block IPs from viewing threads. I'd be at a bit of a loss if they didn't, thanks to so much discussion being centered in 2ch...
I wonder if there will ever be a day when 2ch really dies and fragments the Japanese online community into little pieces...
Even if 2ch died, chances are there'd be another similar forum would show up.
Basically 2ch is a website owned by one individual so if he gets
bored, then he might sell the right of running 2ch to anyone
who are interested. The amount of money would be huge.
Hi. I first time here, and I have some question: how you all create this nice mmm... figure like that:
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( ・ω・)
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>>351
Depends a little on what you mean by "create", I guess.
A quick intro, with some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_JIS_art
There is a FAQ thread in the AA board which might be helpful:
http://4-ch.net/ascii/kareha.pl/1104923197
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http://www.travelintelligence.com/travel-writing/1001179/Asia/Japan/Kanto/Tokyo/Mad-in-Japan.html
How does this make you feel?
>>356
Pretty awful article in that link.
But is there anyone who can say something more to that? Like "Yes it is all truth." or "No it's absolutely wrong because ..."
beautifully written, but somewhat misinformed on various aspects of culture
But I cannot say I wholly disagree with it.
Lessee if I can post here...
I can. But still can't post anywhere else on 2ch... damn.
>>362
Are you スウェーデン人？
Anyway seems like some people who access to 2ch from overseas
are having trouble. 2ch denies access from some ISP of overseas
as far as I know.
Good luck.
>>363
No, 361-362 is someone else (with the same problem).
>>362
I can't post on the English board, but some other boards apparently work fine. Unfortunately my Japanese is pitiful, so I still can't contribute anything -- or even understand much.
I'll try and work up the courage to post in a "Chat in Japanese" thread I saw recently...
dejima ita
>>364
Banning accesses from overseas is rediculous.
I know cyber attacks from China, Korea and maybe other countries happen sometime, though....
English board especially shouldn't ban accesses from overseas. It has to be a place where people from various countires mingle and have fun.
Good luck to スウェーデン人, too.
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I think for me it just has to do with the way the internet is set up. There's some kind of proxy thing by default... I guess 2ch doesn't welcome it like that.
The only other way is to buy moritapo or whatever it's called to have proper posting access. No way I'm paying $ to post on 2ch or look at old topics though.
Sweden-jin, here?
I want to ask your opinion of this video
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=UhNDc-HwjFo&feature=related
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I brought the cookies!!! Who wants the chocolate chip?
You don't have to buy them.
Lots of cookies are in your PC.
You don't have to buy them.
Lots of cookies are in your PC.
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:) i'm back. is jenny back too :) :) ? :)
I am a Chinese and living in China now. In this year, Japanese studying was bagun. now. i hope I will have a travel in few years later. Of course, I will be good at Japanese speaking at that time. Welcome email to me. email: hehout@yahoo.com.cn
How often do people post here?
>>Michael
It's nice to you!
I am studying CSCI in California, so I know learning foreign language is tough. But if you think Japanese is cool and worth to learn, I apreciate.
Unfortunately, some Chinese, Korean, and Japanese Netizens hate each other. On the other hand, many Japanese people will welcome you.
Anyway,
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bump
Call me a master of hikikomori
Looks like da jenny aint back for a while :P
Wow, that is a 神ID indeed.
I wanted to improve my English better so downloaded Skype lately.
But those who tried to contact me were only Chinese people,who wanted to study Japanese.
I was a bit surprised at the fact that Japanese language was popular with them.
Because I've thought that Chinese people, in general, hate Japan because of the government's anti-Japanese education.
So I was very glad to know that there were some of them who were interested in Japan or Japanese things.
I hope China and Japan build a good relationship with each other in the future.
age
I wonder about the chinese thing as well.
I was in Japan last year on an one year exchange program.
At my school and where I lived there were many students from China.
The majority I have met and talked to hated Japan. And comaplained alot about Japan. Some have been in Japan for quite a few years now.
Which makes me wonder WHY ARE THEY EVEN STAYING IN JAPAN?? Why don't they just leave if they hate it so much? It's not like the Japanese governement haved locked the gates preventing them from leaving right?
>>Which makes me wonder WHY ARE THEY EVEN STAYING IN JAPAN??
Same sentiment here. Fine if you want to go hating on Japan, they hate on lots of other folks too anyway, but FFS get out of Japan if you hate it so much.
I can kind of understand why even otherwise nice balanced Japanese people can have this irrational (albeit stereotyped) hatred towards Chinese/Korean/etc immigrants when they like to piss on the country nobody asked them to come into. (as opposed to maybe expat workers who are there because their company insisted they be there)
I find that the majority of Chinese people who learn Japanese are not from mainland China, but from Taiwan. In fact, most Taiwanese celebrities know quite a lot of Japanese...
I heard Taiwan is generally described as 親日 (pro-Japan, friendly with Japan) Is this true?
>>392
They were students, right? Of course it's not like the Japanese government locking them up or anything, but it's probably not complete free will of Chinese students either, considering how oppressive it gets once they in the "system" in Chinese society. If it's an exchange program, the length is set from the beginning, so they can't just quit staying in Japan. Of course, even so, it wouldn't be logical to constantly bitch about Japan.
>this irrational (albeit stereotyped) hatred towards Chinese/Korean/etc immigrants
This is largely due to so-called "zainichi" issues. There probably isn't well-balanced explanation written in English of what the issues really are. If you don't even know what "zainichi" refer to, it's not a good idea to use judgmental words such as "irrational".
>>394
No. How many people do you think live in China?
>>395
Well, Taiwanees people probably don't like to be simply grouped as such. There have been always pro-China people in Taiwan. This is hardly surprising considering how it came to be. Let's just say Taiwan is still trying to establish its national identity. Issues such as which language (Chinese, but their dialects are really mutually unintelligible languages) should be promoted publically are still hotly debated.
Yes, I know about the zainichi issues, but I still find the reaction that some have to ANYTHING China/Korea related to be rather off-putting. Maybe "irrational" is the wrong word, but I really must roll my eyes at people who actually start forming a clearly negative opinion of people (who make no nationalistic claims or anything of the sort) simply because they find out they've got Chinese/Korean origins... and claim it's a justified cultural thing. I think it's as bad as the rednecks in America who get pee'd off at a president having zomgomg some shred of Muslim connection.
I guess I still feel irked by those used to homogenous environments who understandably get extra-sensitive to issues relating to foreigners... being so used to dealing with foreigners of all types, most types of nationalism and resultant attitudes (of all countries - C,J,K,whatever) just seem hollow to me.
Well some of the "haters" I met, went to Language school in Japan, than shingaku into the universities. (And thus, it would have taken many years) So they weren't on exchange. Like I left in a year cause I had to.
I mean there were some Chinese (from China) who loved Japan, there were just still a bigger majority that didn't. (At least at the school I was, and where I lived)
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As for Taiwan and it's more pro-Japanese things.
(Not trying to turn this into a history lesson)
Not everyone in Taiwan is pro-Japanese
Taiwan is mostly seperated between the "外省人" (external-province person) and "本省人" (inner-province person) + the aboriginals. The current governement ruling Taiwan is the KMT and are considered "outer".
Those considered "outer" were people who emigrated from mainland China near the end of the Chinese Civil War (along with Chiang Kai Shek). Their decendants are called this as well. "Inner" were those who were in Taiwan prior to the mass immigration.
The majority of the "external" population of Taiwan dislike the Japanese, where as the "inner" is more pro-japanese. The inner considered Japan as good people, because they helped with infrastructure etc. However, like many other Asian countries, the Taiwanese were forced to give up their Chinese names and made to to speak Japanese, and basically to throw out their chinese ancestory. So there were many people in Taiwan now who are sensitive to this issue.
When the KMT took over, they thought themselves as the "liberator" of the Taiwanese people. Some appreciated it, while others just hated this. They took land and money and basically bullied the "inner" Taiwanese. They also mass murdered many many Taiwanese.
If you talk to some older generations of Taiwanese people, some would say they prefer to be ruled by Japan than by China.
So these issues are always so hard... SIGH ><
>like many other Asian countries, the Taiwanese were forced to give up their Chinese names
C'mon, if you are knowledgeable enough to be able to spell 外省人 and 本省人, why do you believe such a bull on its face value? Forced? It was based on permission. Those who wanted Japanese style names had to meet requirements such as being fluent in Japanese.
>I think it's as bad as the rednecks in America who get pee'd off at a president having zomgomg some shred of Muslim connection.
No. Are those alleged highjackers really the perpetrators of 911? Don't you think it's amazing that Chosen Soren, who without a doubt was involved in Japanese abduction, still exists?
some 外省人 are fucked up losers and should go back to china rather trying to suck up chinese asses
Hi,
anybody there?
>>403
Why hello there.
私はこの狂気の月の言語を読むことができない!
Hi, wanna learn/teach/practice some Japanese on a friendly IRC channel? Come to irc.chaosrpg.net #Japanese :D. Feel free to hang out and make some friends also ^_^. Can't wait to see you there!
おはよう！
hi
hey,hybrid american.
i don't your future and killing soon!
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go back america from ryukyu
we hate hybrid monsters. give back racial island!
will be growing up terrorism!
http://darkelf.dip.jp/doubt/index_en.html
golgolmois, is that you?!
http://academy6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1231281933/l50
I came from here.
I'm just wondering if 米人、アメリカ人、ベイエリア人 or other people from overseas with particular ISPs are blocked by 2ch.
If you guys just have nothing to post, then that's OK but
I'm just wondering if you're in trouble.
>>364 is スウェーデン人's post regarding his access denied by 2ch back then. He used to come to "chat in English" thread in 2ch's English board until he was blocked.
If you respond to this post, you have to fill in the section
named 検証. You see random alphabets right next to the 検証 box. You have to type those alphabets in. Maybe that workes for avoiding automatic comment spams.
Wow! My ID is Heaven.
It's just a coincidence or what.
Wow! My ID is Heaven.
It's just a coincidence or what.
Sorry for the double post.
Yes, I'm blocked.
It's inconvenient.
However, I can post from school.
I just posted to 2ch right now. I'm started to think that all the folks who say they're being blocked are figments of my imagination.
yup, I'm blocked as well but I can use Hotspot Shield to post.
However, it doesn't always connect to an IP that allows me to post so I have to try around 10 times before it works. So posting now is extremely tedious. I'll try to post sometime this week. I keep reading it though.
To anyone who routinely types Japanese text, is it true that text entry is literally faster on a cell phone keypad, instead of a keyboard? I know very little about the alphabets, but does the structure of the language just lend itself to a situation like that?
I'm >>411-414, not >>416.
Why on earth me and >>416 have the same ID? Hmmm....
>>415
It's inconvenient not to be able to post whenever you want.
I hope you'll find efficient proxies soon.
>>417
You said before that you need to copy and preserve your comment before posting so that it won't diminish when the message is blocked. Now you need to do that 10 times for each post? Sounds really bothering.
米人 must be in trouble now. Maybe she gave up already.
>>418
It should be a lot faster to type Japanese with PC's keyboard (QWERTY keyboard) than with cell phones key alignment of a cell phone. The number of times you have to punch keys is larger when you use a cell phone for text messaging or emailing.
You must be talking about middle school or high school students.
Some of them type at a lightning speed with cell phone keypad, they aren't accustomed to type with PC's keyboard so in that case, they type faster with cell phone keypad than PC's key board.
Maybe ID's of people from Japan is all Heaven...
Not sure though.
Thank you for you for your input, >>419. As an American, it's very strange to consider a youth being unaccustomed to a PC keyboard. It IS true that younger kids are faster on a cell phone keypad (sending text SMS) than the older students I'm around... I recently read <a href="http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2009/01/30/07">this NPR article</a> about "keitai culture," and that's why I asked. The amount of connectivity in Japan just blows my mind. I'm a bit of a computer geek and that kind of technology is interesting to me, but being SO connected to the point of nervous breakdown is just frightening. I'd love to visit, though.
>>420
Do you not understand? Every user who enters 'sage' as their link results in ID:Heaven.
Look.
>As an American, it's very strange to consider a youth being unaccustomed to a PC keyboard.
Well, not all households have a PC/PCs in their household. if
their parents' jobs aren't office work then they are less likely
to be familiar with PC and don't own a PC in their home. It's
kind of like a digital devide in Japan.
Even in such families, kids there wants to have their own cell
phone to be connected with their friends all the time, so
their parents buy a cell phone for their kids. That way, even if
a kid can't type PC keyboard well, they are very skilled in
typing on a cell phone keypad.
Students have a chance to get familiar with PC at school but
schools PC literacy education is defferent from school to school
so, some students don't acquire good typing skill because of
the lack of time they can spend on typing on PC key board.
So they are better at typing on their cell phone keypad.
As the webiste you put a link to says, some students and even
adults are kind of like addicted to cell phone use.
My 15-year-old nephew's cell phone has been taken away by her
mother=my sister, because her mom found out that when she was
supposed to study in her room, in fact, she was sending e-mails
for hours at night during the entire period of school's test
week. Her grades were terrible and her mom has taken it away.
There seems to be a unique cell phone use culture among
youngsters in Japan. There's a rule among them what's called
30 minutes rule in which if you don't reply to your friends'
e-mail in 30 minutes, the recepient think they are ignored
and disliked and the friendship go bad. Some call it 3 minutes
rule, not 30 minuites. Kids have to be on alert.
Bullying on the Internet is a social problem here and some schools banned students cell phone use. This is a sign that it's common for students in Japan to use Internet on their cell phones.
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/ed20081221a1.html
http://wirelesswatch.jp/
This website gives you the cell phone trend in Japan.
http://www.wirelesswatch.jp/docs/JMIR_Sample.pdf
This ecerpt of a PDF document sold by the company that runs the website above gives you what's going on in Japan's cell phone
internet use. You can learn a lot from it, although data there
is until 2006 or 2007.
I'm not what's called a digital native and don't use a cell
phone for email and web browsing so, reading the PDF file and
the website gives me better undersatanding of cell phone
Internet trend. I can practice reading English, too.
By the way, the website you put the lingk to is English-
learners-friendly in that they provide the scripts of audios,
too. If I couldn't catch some words, I can check the script.
I think I'll listen and read other articles on the website.
>>422
Oh, stupid me. orz Thanks.
Hmm..??
Now I see my entire post without clicking anything.
Anyway, "Oh, stupid me. orz Thanks." is the last line of the
long post.
For gaijins like me, do you advise travelling Tokyo alone? Will it be possible to just move around and meet random people like you are in North America or Europe?
>>426
I'm interested in this question too. A friend and I want to travel to Japan this summer.
[secret question: is it true that the drinking age is enforced very loosely? we would be just shy of the drinking age.]
Interesting that this thread should suddenly come alive.
>>411
The whole .se top domain still seems to be blocked. I still see the same 「海外ドメイン規制(se)。」 message, at least.
So it is quite a coincidence - I will change ISP soon to one that offers a good 3G / UMTS broadband service, and I belive I will be able to post again.. (They do not use the .se domain.)
>>427
You are very updated about how cell phone carriers charge you. I'm too lazy to keep an eye on how Japanese carriers charge you. How they charge is too complicated at least for me so I'm not so updated. If you go to an outlet of carriers, they show you the most appropriate charge plan based on your cell phone use and internet and email habit.
In Japan there are three major carriers, NTTdocomo, AU and Softbank. Softbank bought cell phone business from Vodafone, by the way. Before introduction of "number portability" system a few years ago, if you change carriers, your cell phone number had to be changed. That was inconvenient for consumers and made them hesitate to change carriers. That prevent the market's fair cometiotion and helped NTTdocomo dominate large market share.
After introduction of number portability system, consumers can use the same number even if they change carriers so if they have complains about one carrier's service, they can change carriers without too much hesitation. That urges carriers fair competition and healty market. The competiton among carriers gets fierce and that is good for consumers because they offer more user friendly charge system such as as long as you talk with your family members the telephone charge is free or things like that.
But at the same time, they try to catch and hold their costomers by offering a charge system where the longer you use one carrier, the more discount rate you get. This seems like the same with America judging from your post. And if you break a contract and change your carrier they fine you. This is the same with America. Well, anyway, I don't know much about charge system though.
Yeah, rude people with bad cell phone habit is everywhere here, too, young and old. Funny haha but annoying thing is that elderly people have a bad cell phone habit because of they don't know much about cell phone. Some elderly poeple don't even know how to set their phone on "mannar mode"(Mannar mode might be Japanese English. Maybe it's better to say "silent mode")
In a theater, libray, wherever you have to be quiet, their cell phones ring loud. I think they don't know how to set their cell phone on silent mode with vibration. Annoying thing is they speak very loud there. Elderly people once critisized young people's bad cell phone habit, which is talking loud in a public place, emailing wherever they are and you name it, but once they come to have their own cell phone, they are doing the same thing. At least young people know how to set their cell on silent mode.
I know NPR. Actually I have visited NPR's website. It's national public radio so their broadcast and articles aren't
sensationalized. NPR is very calm but sometimes a little bit boring because of that. Sometimes articles and broadcast of 3 major networks' are too sensationalized. The anchors there act and speak like an actor with too much emotion. I like between NPR and 3 major networks if you know what I mean. hehe
Thanks for another link, too. Although I'm not good at listening to English, I tired a few audio there. I'll read and listen more there, too.
>>428
Legal drinking age is 20 here but it's a shame to admit that Japan is very loose about it. Japan is getting very severe about driving under influence, though and the police and restaurants, bar which offer alchol takes very tough approach now. If some people go to bar and they drink beer and one person drive back home with them, the friends who drink with the driver are arrested, too.
Vending machines are everywhere in Japan and some of them sell beer. No ID is needed to get beer using vending machine.
I think you can't use vending machines that sell beer from 11pm to 5am. I'm not sure though. I don't drink alchol.
Convenience stores sell beer, too. They don't ask you to show an ID if you don't look too young. Mind you, I'm not encouraging you to drink alchol here.
>>430
Yes, you need to hack the registry. Fortunately, there is already a reg file.
http://www7.plala.or.jp/dvorakjp/download.htm
I don't know if your school allows you to hack it or if it works for the Swedish keyboard.
>>435
As the blog's entry said, they are taking preventive measures against minors' tabaco purchase, but I never heard of any equivalent stories about vending machines that sell beer and other alchol.
Sad incidents are happening around Japan regarding the introduction of Taspo, age-verification cards. As the blog entry says, vending machines with the face recognition function is very rare now, so Taspo card is the only measure to prevent minors from buying cigaret on vending machines. All vending machines except the ones with face recognition system have Taspo reader. The problem is that the regstration for a Taspo card is bothersome, which includes filing out a form.
So not many smokers have made their own Taspo card. That means they buy cigarret at a convenient store. Small mom-and-pop stores that sell cigarret rely their sales on from vending machine so lots of these small business are going bankrupcy.
>>436
I think it's unfortunate that the Japanese life is "too busy" to fill out a form, even if it means more convenient access to things they would buy anyway. And it is good morals to support independent stores.
You not only have to fill out a form but also you have to take it with your ID such as a driver's liscence to somewhere to get
a Taspo card for vending machine perchase.
I'm a smoker myself (not smoke much) but I don't know where I have to bring the form to to get a Taspo card and where I can get a form for that matter. Maybe because I'm always thinking about quit smoking so I don't care about gettind my Taspo card much. Convenience stores are everywhere so you can buy cigarett even if you don't have your Taspo card.
Maybe I should start a new thread for this? I have been interested to know good Japanese movies. I have a cult bias. I watched "Blue Spring" ("Aoi haru") this weekend, and I thought it was very interesting. I'm also looking into getting Wild Zero. Does anyone else have any recommendations?
>>439
Have you watched Pornostar? It's the first film by the director of Blue Spring. It has plenty of flaws, but I think in some ways that makes it more interesting to watch, and the good stuff about it is really very good.
If you're into these kind of movies one thing I'd really like to recommend is going through Tsukamoto Shinya's filmography (from Tetsuo to Viral, anway). It's fascinating to watch the way his style and themes develop and change, maybe more so than with any other director I've come across. If you'd rather not focus on one director like that you should at least watch Tetsuo, if you haven't already.
I could go on forever recommending stuff really, but to mention just a few across a bit of a range, there's Electric Dragon 80,000 V, Miike Takashi's Graveyard of Honour (the original is pretty good too, but Miike's is amazing), Ranpo Noir, Branded to Kill, and Tsuito no Zawameki. I don't know if you'll get that last one without spending a lot or using Share but it's more than worth a try.
Since we're talking about movies at the moment, anybody know of a good martial arts film that doesn't include the silly over-the-top flying leaps (a la Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)?
Many girls all over the world today see Korean guys as romantic, manly, smart, and sexy.
Sure, that's all perfectly correct.
Korean guys treat girls gently and nicely, meaning they are romantic.
Korean guys go through a hard-studying experience, meaning they are quite smart.
Korean guys train themselves both mentally and phisically, meaning they are manly and sexy.
Those elements of Korean guys are appealing to girls all around the world.
In addition, Korean guys are enjoying their popularity thanks to Korean Wave.
Korean Wave gives girls all over the world a chance to see Korean guys on TV and the Internet.
Those girls started to worship Korean guys since the Wave caught attention from the world media.
Now quite a number of girls are dreaming of finding a Korean guy as their boyfriend/husband.
We have to admit that Korean guys are most competitive under the current circumstance everywhere in this world.
We should be proud of it!! :)
Can I ask a question here?
I wanna post about a regulation is discussing in Japan on Wakachan.
It's concerned with Anime, Manga and so on.
Which board should I post this regulation on?
Chinese nuclear tests in East Turkestan 1of3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjwcj1ysAaU
Chinese nuclear tests in East Turkestan 2of3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oEs8iQGEfw
Chinese nuclear tests in East Turkestan 3of3
I'm being quite desperate right now. I've been trying to post an comment on the 2ch boards since more than 5 hours (no kidding!) trying everything you could imagine, but nothing works.
I've tried to use proxys. Got >>340's response, even though I reloaded plenty of times it didn't work either.
I tried these proxy browser sites. All of them were banned.
I downloaded senyou browsers. Same as above, it's useless.
Is there even any chance of being able to post on the other 2ch forums?! I feel like giving up after 5 hours of intesive searching and despair D:
