Right, Squeeks is going (222)

1 Name: Shii 2006-01-25 06:57 ID:GYCuFCQI

Any of you lot care?

Raise your hands.

173 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-10 22:05 ID:vNsKusQx

It would be an expensive venture to have a board that popular. you'd need scads of bandwidth, a real staff, and ads to pay for it all. Additionally, imagine DQN exploding 100-fold.

sinks into reverie

174 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-11 00:07 ID:Heaven

175 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-11 13:23 ID:Heaven

DQN sucks a lot compared to news4vip.

176 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-11 18:42 ID:+bT+4tDj

>>173

True. However it would be the biggest English-Speaking board on the net. I'm sure a fair few companies would like to advertise once they knew that statistic. Plus we could always try and wrangle some sort of deal with server providers like the Jpas apparently did. And even 2channel can run on a volunteer staff picked from members who post mostly anonymously and only post trips when doing important modding.

meh, just think that if this board was set up as a tribute to 2channel. It should AIM to be the All-English version of 2channel.

ramble ramble

177 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-11 22:11 ID:Heaven

178 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-12 14:34 ID:Heaven

>>176

This is silly. 4-ch may be purposely similar to 2ch, but that hardly means it needs to copy to be a good board. Simply emulating them WILL NOT bring the same success, nor will it necessarily lead to happy users. I'd much rather see decisions made for this site made by our own users and staff, not the users and staff of a site that probably doesn't really know we exist.

4-ch should aim to be 4-ch, not a translation/copy.

179 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-12 16:10 ID:Heaven

>>178

I'm not suggesting that we totally copy everything they do. However the way to be a good site is to take the best things from other success and improve on them. >>178

180 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-12 16:18 ID:Heaven

>>179

>However, why can't we just borrow mostly everything from 2ch?

It sure seemed like you were suggesting that we do whatever they do and suddenly somehow become the largest English speaking board in history.

What I'm trying to say is that the things they did for their success came from their own minds, and so should ours.

181 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-12 18:04 ID:Heaven

>>180

Yes. But sometimes it helps to take someone elses idea and use it as a base. For example I'd like 4-ch not to be too Japan-centric and more open to the casual internet userbase. To do this would require alot more advertising on our part, and maybe more spreading by our own selves.

"Hey man, I know this board where you can discuss [Insert thing here] the people on it are pretty helpful and it's totally anonymous and register free. It doesn't even take a minute. Give it a try!"

182 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-12 18:08 ID:Heaven

>>180

Also I would like to say that I would like 4-ch to be the biggest English-Speaking board on the net. In fact I thought that was the whole point. Meh whatever like y'know.

183 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-12 19:46 ID:Heaven

>>182

The point is that it can't become the biggest English speaking board just by copying 2ch.

4-ch becoming the biggest English board online would require a lot of people to change the way they view the internet, and I just don't think we have the power to get them to. It's not that I think it's absolutely hopeless, but doing things because 2ch does them just -will not do it-.

184 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 02:12 ID:/I92uHhp

Personally, I don't care if 4-ch is ever the biggest or the greatest board on the web. I just want it to be a good board. It'd be nice if 4-ch is big at some point, but superlatives like "biggest" will distract you by making you worry about what other boards (e.g., the present biggest) are doing.

185 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 05:23 ID:2T0HJwA5

what is biggest bourd on interweb?

186 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 07:02 ID:Heaven

The biggest English registration board seems to be Gaia Online.

...Yeah.

187 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-13 12:18 ID:Heaven

Actual on-topic discussion on how to save 4-ch below this point

188 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-14 03:18 ID:Heaven

Let it die and the community form its own multiple off-shoot websites!

189 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 09:13 ID:Heaven

no dont :(

190 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 17:25 ID:Heaven

let's all go to becauseitswinter

191 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-15 18:09 ID:Heaven

192 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-16 04:08 ID:Heaven

193 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-16 10:45 ID:Heaven

>>185
2channel.

anyway, I've been away from 4-ch lately. I used to think I was definatly one of the biggest posters here, but it's been a good 3 months since I've said much.

I came back and what do I see? the site about to die, and a lot of pointless, off-topic arguing.

Come on guys.
I think we can do better than this. I think for the most part this issue is being handled well, but there are a few users out there who seem more interested in being anonymous or proving their points than actually helping the good of the site. Being anonymous should cut down on arguements - see something you don't like, ignore it. That isn't the case with all topics, as otherwise much discussion would die, but in this case, LET'S SAVE 4-CH.

Who cares about being the biggest or the best?
I mean more users would be great, but is being the biggest important at all? Do we really WANT that many fag jackets running around 4-ch? I highly doubt it.

Who cares if you're 100% anonymous if you still get to have a nice, laidback, and unbiased disscusion? That's the only reason to be anonymous in the first place, but in many cases, especially for short periods of time, being not-anonymous is in no way bad at all.

Who cares if we're 2channel? We should figure out what's best for this site. Sure, they're our base and we borrow a lot of culture and ideals from 2ch, but this issue has nothing to do with them, it has to do with us. Because they're our base doesn't mean they have to be our guide for the entire life of 4-ch.

Basically, this is a long, long, pointless post saying:

get back on topic and stop fagging up the thread.

Oh, and for what's it worth:
I like the link field, and I also like Shii.

194 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 02:57 ID:/I92uHhp

> Who cares if you're 100% anonymous if you still get to have a nice, laidback, and unbiased disscusion?

Me.

> That's the only reason to be anonymous in the first place,

No it's not.

> but in many cases, especially for short periods of time, being not-anonymous is in no way bad at all.

Yes it is.

195 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 03:32 ID:GYCuFCQI

>>194 kotepho

196 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 17:28 ID:/I92uHhp

>>195 ad hominem fallacy

197 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-19 23:36 ID:Heaven

>>194

>Me.

Why?

>No it's not.

What other reasons are there?

>Yes it is.

Why?

>My post.

Why do we keep derailing?

198 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 00:08 ID:Heaven

Quit this jibberjabber.

We only need a strawman who we can give money to who takes care of the hosting deal. What about WAHa?

199 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 02:12 ID:Heaven

>>198
I think you mean "figurehead", not "strawman."

Anyway, I've sorta given up on this deal. Either 4-ch somehow keeps running and working, or I'll just start my own site and promote it as 4-ch's successor. Having the community run the site is stupid.

200 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 02:57 ID:Bk1MclDk

Squeeks apparently wants to be the figure head still, but not do any work

201 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 12:10 ID:Heaven

who is >>199 ?

202 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 12:14 ID:Heaven

>>201
That guy from DQN. You know. That guy.

203 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 12:38 ID:Heaven

>>199 is Shii.

Anyway, the only real problem that remains is finding a person who overtakes the hosting deal.

> Having the community run the site is stupid.

I don't really see how. It can be specified who that would be.

204 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-20 14:17 ID:Heaven

I have no doubt that 4-ch will continue. Additionally, having seen enough steering committees in my life, I believe that having a single autocrat with some very, very lazy mod-slaves would be the best solution of all.

205 Name: Shii 2006-02-22 03:36 ID:GYCuFCQI

>>203
Keep guessing and one day you'll be wrong. >>199 is not me, I have no inclination to start my own 2ch clone.

206 Name: Shii 2006-02-22 03:39 ID:GYCuFCQI

Also, I was talking with moot about some sort of world4ch plan, but he doesn't trust me with it which is a fair cop I guess.

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214 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-26 21:26 ID:Heaven

are all of you gaia users or are you just fucking around?
seriously this isn't DQN

215 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-26 21:42 ID:eo2KqrPD

So Squeeks, how are the servers looking? Are you going to make any new moderators?

216 Name: Squeeks 2006-02-27 07:34 ID:Omh7nmZU

>>215 my little plan works like this:
1) Upgrade all the boards, fix issues, install new boards, make moderator board publically viewable
2) Let the public decide who becomes moderator and who is not
3) Work out other problems from there on.

I know I'm slow at replying, doing etc but I've been hit up with lots of work, as always, however I get my two days off tomorrow.

217 Name: Anonymous 2006-02-27 10:20 ID:Heaven

>make moderator board publically viewable

Yay!

So, are you going to erase old posts? :p

218 Name: GNAA 2006-02-28 03:38 ID:2T0HJwA5

>2) Let the public decide who becomes moderator and who is not

We eagerly await the upgrade.

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220 Name: Shii : 2006-02-28 17:29 ID:+IE3ZzOG

For Christ's sake, take it to /dqn/. This is totally irrelevant to the thread.

221 Name: Anonymous Advisor : 2006-04-02 11:37 ID:gqPiNqzA

>make moderator board publically viewable

222 Name: Shii : 2006-04-02 17:25 ID:Heaven

Only squeeks has the power to do that, and he is busy

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