Mainichi
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/entertainment/news/20050913p2a00m0et014000c.html
Business.com
http://www.business.com/directory/media_and_entertainment/avex_inc/
Jeremy Douglass (blog)
http://wrt.ucr.edu/wordpress/2005/09/16/two-character-art-cats/
H.Q. BBS at 2ch (Japanese only)
http://aa5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/mona/1126779292/l50
Update tips
http://monseurmonar.tripod.com/saveourbelovedmonar/
Comprehend "Noma-Neko" case in 5 minutes
http://jns.ixla.jp/users/j200116605167366/5minutesE.htm
Pictures
http://0bbs.jp/nomaneko/img0_145
http://0bbs.jp/nomaneko/img0_18
http://0bbs.jp/nomaneko/img0_504
If you have anything to ask, please come our home BBS
http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/news/2729/1126769100/l10
English is OK and someone could be available.
Post today
If you see the topic, please leave a comment here.
Thanks for you help, in advance
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Casper Star-Tribune
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Tennessean.com.
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L.A. Observed: The world has too little gossip?
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just one random comment - I'd go with Moraler instead of Mo-lala. Seems to be more commonly used, sounds better, and sort of makes sense.
I think the next step should be to submit this to Slashdot.
But I advise polishing up the English of the "5 minutes" text first.
>>33THX. I'll check it afterwards.
>>34Understandable.
Can you translate from Japanese to English?
If you can, that could be the fastest to accomplish.
I'm sorry, I don't read nor speak Japanese.
Maybe you want to ask here for help on that: http://4-ch.net/nihongo/
Or on here: http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/
>>38Are you a free-lancer?
I mean, you can post by your writing a news tip (kainda templete), or summarize 5minutes (to make a templete)?
>>39
I am not sure what you mean...
Suggestions regarding "5 minutes" text, part 2.
* "Word in statement "inspired" means "influenced" or something similar. Anyway it does not mean something special." → "The word "inspired" which was used in our statement means "influenced" or something akin to that. Anyway it does not have any special meaning."
(↑I am not sure I am getting the gist of those sentences. I understand that this is a crucial passage and the wording may have legal connotations in Japanese which I am not aware of and would not know an English equivalent either way. So I might be off here.)
* "Distinction between Noma-Neko and Monar/Mo-lala can not be commented." → "We cannot comment on any distinctions between Noma-Neko and Monar/Mo-lala."
* "So many are in deep sorrow or raging agains what AVEX has done." → "So, many are in deep sorrow and anger about what AVEX has done."
* "to insist in its copyright." → "to insist on its copyright."
* "(at the moment of September 12, 2005)" → "(as of September 12th, 2005)"
(↓ The following passages are also problematic for me, as I don't know what terms were used in Japanese and how they would be appropriatly translated into English)
* "Suspicion to "Noma-Neko" of AVEX plagiarize 2-channel character - Point of problem -" → "Suspicion that "Noma-Neko" by AVEX plagiarizes 2-channel character - Points of concern -"
* "Suspicion of plagiarism from a character whose copyright exists." → "Suspicion of plagiarism of a character whose copyright exists."
* "Suspicion that copyright of author of the AA is violated." → "Suspicion that copyright of author(s) of the AA (ASCII Art) is being violated."
* "AVEX does not responsiblly do their duty to explain the situation." → "AVEX does not responsibly fulfill their duty to explain the situation."
* "Freedom of creation and culture following is being endangered." → "Freedom of future creation and culture are endangered."
* "= Suspicion to "Noma-Neko" of AVEX plagiarize 2-channel character -Frequentll asked questions and replies-" → "Noma-Neko" by AVEX plagiarizes 2-channel character - Frequently Asked Questions -"
* "Does ASCII Art own a copyright?" → "Does copyright for ASCII Art exist?"
* "To use certain subject whose author of the work can not be determined, it is necessary to apply following law." ← I don't know what you mean here by "following law". This should be clarified.
* "What is a problem that an AA character is used." → "What is the problem about AA characters being used?"
* "It is not such a simple question." → "The matter is not that simple."
* "What if a profittal company suddenly declares that certain ocject, like Noma-Neko, is their original characters, even though it is a copy of some existing object with slight change." → "What if a profit based company suddenly declares that certain object, like Noma-Neko, is their original character, even though it is just a copy of some existing object with just slight changes?"
* "Everyday many artistic works are unveiled in internet" → "Everyday, many artistic works are unveiled on the internet"
* "with author's aim for audience to enjoy, author made it because author wanted to, and so." → "with the author's aim for the audience to enjoy & the author creates because he or she wants to."
* "No one will feel llike introducing their works if their works can easily be pirated by a major companies." → "No one will feel like introducing their works if they can easily be pirated by major companies."
* "could even destroy culture of creation in internet, namely a barbarous act, isn't it?" → "could even destroy the culture of creation on the internet, which would be a barbarous act, wouldn't it?"
* "Don't 2-channellers merely want to argue on AVEX product?" → "Don't 2-channellers merely want to argue about this AVEX product?"
(↓ I am really not sure what the meaning of the following passage is. It doesn't make much sense in the original, so I am guessing to the best of my ability)
* "Isn't there anything we can do to be used Monar by AVEX if the author is not determined?" → "Is there anything we can do to protect Monar from being used by AVEX if the author is not known?"
(↓Why change from "Monar" to "Moraler/Mo-lala"? And if the author is know, then who is it? And what significance does this have?)
* "Author of Mo-lala is determined." → "The author of Monar (Moraler?) is known."
* "Mo-lala is also used in O-Zon CD though the author was not informed nor asked for permission." → "Moraler is also used on the O-Zone CD though the author was neither informed nor asked for permission."
* "Can not it be the originality?" → "Isn't it Noma-Neko therefore an original creation?"
* "Point of creativitiy" → "Matter of creativity"
* "Copyright Research and Information Center said filling the blank of letters and signs can hardly be admitted a new creation." → "Copyright Research and Information Center said that simply filling in letters and signs can hardly be refered to as original creation."
* "(drawn in line. editor added)" → "(e.g. line drawings in graphic editors)"
* "Anything I could do against it?" → "Is there anything I can do about this?"
* "Plenty of things you can do are shown below." → "Plenty of things you can do are listed below."
* "Tell your friends about it or show webpage would be nice, too." → "Telling your friends about it or showing them relevant webpages would be nice, too."
* "in the webpage shown below." → "in the webpage linked below"
* "= Act against plagiarism of AVEX from 2-channel based AA character" → "= Act against plagiarism by AVEX of 2-channel based AA character"
* "This page is indicated by the purpose of a public reading." → "This page's intention is to serve as public information."
* "As for this page, it links free, and the copy is free." → "You can freely link to this page or copy its content."
* "Please use it freely as the print and the distribution, etc." → "Feel free to use it freely in print and other ways of distribution."
(↓This sentence does not make any sense at all, so my suggestion is just guessing, again)
* "Please set each one to the where to make contact." → "If you do, please include proper contact information."
>>40Free writer for the papers.
Sending news, text and tips for a cash, whichever the job or side business.
>>41I am almost drowned with words... orz
I mean asking, are you professional about writing?
Oh, I see.
No, I don't write for any papers right now.
>>43
I am just a concerned netizen with a tender love for language, that's all.
>>44Thank you for your effort.
I'll check it later on.
Only thing that comes to mind is the already mentioned idea
of submitting this story to Slashdot.
Slashdot is one of the biggest news sites for internet/tech/intellectual propety related topics.
There's a huge possible English-speaking audience this could attract.
But it is reasonable to polish up the "5 minutes" text before submitting the story.
After more English-speaking netizens become aware of the story, maybe
sensible strategies for us foreigners (from the Japanese perspective) can be come up with.
Good luck!
>>48 Thank you. You have my words on it.
I knew we have to go next stage.
I will check them and result will be seen.
I mean, I felt little sorry to the original text writer. What he did was really great job. Polishing words or streaming sentence, can be little rude for his effort.
Anyway, I take better one for the readers under current circumstances.
>>49
Well, it's not like I could have done anything without his work.
All of my suggestions would not have been possible without him providig the first steps.
So I don't think it's rude if we keep that in mind.
PS: I'm not asking to be included in the credits of that page or anything.
I just meant to help out.
Thanks goodness.
ref. page changed for Japanese people.
Please use new page. English is OK.
http://academy4.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/english/1127368123/l50
>>25 supplemental
ZEN -> zi-zone
E-mail : office@mediaservices.ro
http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/news/2729/1126484614/123
copy from above address;
Please send the letter for O-Zone to our address:
SC Media Services SRL, Bvd. Ficusului, no. 5-7, district 1, postal code 013971, Bucharest, Romania.
We'll get them the letter when it will arrive.
Best regards,
Carmen Baragau
Secretary of Media Services Srl
Good to be true? "Noma Neko vs TORO" means avex vs SONY!?
http://monseurmonar.tripod.com/saveourbelovedmonar/
Tried slashdot.org from "submit story" section without log in as a news. Wll see what happen...
Update
Still cehcking 5minutes...
Quite a few volume for me. 5pages...
>>57
Ganbare! ( ^－ﾟ)ﾉ♪
>>28
the plural of "forum" is "forums" unless you're actually speaking latin.
>>59
Well, agreed, but I still like to use latin plural for latin words.
I don't know what the actual convention here is but I know that Webster's lists the plural of "penis" correctly as "penes", not "penises".
↓Taken from http://blog.livedoor.jp/monarmonarmonar/
Hiroyuki, webmaster of mega BBS 2-channel has sent an e-mail with inquriy to AVEX.
Hiroyuki Nishimura, webmaster of 2-channel has sent an inquiry to AVEX as shown below:
*Hiroyuki's message*
Well, I sent an e-mail of inquiry shown below to AVEX.
If NomaNeko and NomaTako issue is not a familiar topic or if you do not have any idea of it, please see this website, (http://magic3.net/item/415)
What is NomaNeko problem? . This should be very helpful.
(All in Japanese. Monseur Monar added.)
**As the website shown above is all in Japanese, please see articles that Monseur Monar wrote below or visit Comprehend NomaNeko problem in 5 minutes. (http://jns.ixla.jp/users/j200116605167366/5minutesE.htm)
If AVEX reacts to my inquiry, I will update here.
Hiroyuki
******************
*Open letter of inquiry about NomaTako*
My name is Nishimura and I am webmaster of a BBS website 2-channel.
I now am thinking of promoting a character whose name is "NomaTako",
I want to assure that there is not any problem with you at all on registering
NomaTako as a trademark.
When no reply comes in seven days, I will sorrily take it as a tacit permission.
Looking forward to your reply.
Design of NomaTako. (http://2ch.net/nomatako/1.jpg)
What NomaTako is :
"NomaTako" was born in VIP thread in 2-channel.
NomaTako has been created with inspiration from a waterbag traditionally placed on horse saddle.
It has been created to criticize NomaNeko problem with originality added
and characterized which does not restrict AVEX of using a logomark using "A" .
As we are doing it as business, we always are eager to promote certain goods
more and more following reaction of the market. This trademark, however, works only in NomaTako which is planned to be promoted as our charcter.
This registeretion is not to ristrict your rights to use "A" logomark of course.
Hereby we repeatedly emphasize, this registeration was made only on NomaTako which namely means that it does not ristrict any use of logomark of Ayumi Hamasaki.
We, 2-channel are looking forward to communicating with Music Industry so that we both will promote entertaining contents which can be enjoyed with more people.
Thank you.
Explanation of NomaTako was referred from your statement. (http://ecweb1.avexnet.or.jp/sa4web/050908noma.htm)
September 24, 2005
Hiroyuki Nishumura
http://blog.livedoor.jp/monarmonarmonar/archives/50072126.html
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.| Cheers! I am NomaTako™, new & original 2channel creation!
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PS: LOL, Hiroyuk is awesome.
> Hiroyuk
"Hiroyuki"
orz
>>33 Agreed, Thx.
>>28 Thank you very much I understood your comment and appreciate your suggestion. This translation form
(5minutes.) can not be done without original author, translator, and you people like lots of help. The reason why I am
not involved is, I do not have a time to do and takes long to.
original
http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/news/2729/1126335171/r1
Modified
http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/news/2729/1126335171/r58
Foe example, I modified a letter, but took 1 hour and a person that asked sent already after all. So please accept
my excuse for the making words. I prefer writing without sample or translation. Also, this replacement is like a job to
do for me. That makes me feel like taking sometime. Sorry for that.
"avex" is a logo for them, so I put all avex and "" to emphasize.
http://www.avex.co.jp/
>>59 Thank you for your comment. I took "forums".
Things are new and fresh. This was a good adventure of the words for me.
If some more line on the page can help to understand to the readers, please contact.
>>29 and others will be taken care later.
So, by this amendment, this page version could be 1.7 now. Let's cerebrate!
Sorry, Line breaking happens by multi software usage between hyper text and nomal text for the purpose of speller. orz
.. and miss spell spills.. orz
WARCRY NETWORK
This is great and most updated!
http://www.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=15&id=108&colid=8037
Indymedia UK, this is another nice one.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/09/324172.html
>>61-62 supplemental
FYI
water bouget is...
http://images.google.co.jp/images?q=water+bouget
...not Ayumi Hamasaki's "A" desgin.
>>67-68
Getting close! GJ!
>>71
It seems like Hiroyuki, webmaster of 2channel, took Avex' logo and turned it into a new 2channel mascot to mock them and also test legal water.
But it would be cool if somebody could point out a source where he posted that e-mail content originally.
>>70 Thx!
>>72
All in Japanese.
http://2ch.net/nomatako/
Posted to
avexonline@avexnet.or.jp
Cution:
It was not to avex group holdings.
Guess becasue avex group holdings announced at avex net HP.(JPN)
http://ecweb1.avexnet.or.jp/sa4web/050908noma.htm
Noamally, open letter sent via post, but this time he e-mailed.
>>73
Ah, thanks for the info. What does the avex group announcement say?
On a related note: I ❤ VIPPERS
http://www.nomatako.com/
>>74
See also >>61
==========
Friday, 23 September 2005
AVEX has annouced an official statement about NomaNeko issue.
We deeply apologize for causing confusion and misunderstanding on registeration of
a trademark of NomaNeko which actual registeration has been made by ZEN.
We did not explain our situation with details enough.
As we are doing it as business, we always are eager to promote certain goods
more and more following reaction of the market. This trademark, however, works only
in NomaNeko which is planned to be promoted as our charcter.
This registeretion is not to ristrict your rights to use Mona or other AAs of course.
Hereby we repeatedly emphasize, this registeration was made only on NomaNeko which namely
means that it does not ristrict any use of other AAs such as Mona, Shii etc.
Let us apologize for those who love AA characters and who have brought them up
that our business on NomaNeko was not considered well enough. We, AVEX group, are
deeply repentant.
Sigh......
Great job, folk. Nothing to say such an excuse (it does not even look like an excuse to
me, thuogh.....) Let me shout, ITTE YOSHI!!
How could a big coorporation like AVEX do such a terrible thing?
I want to ask AVEX on it for about an hour.....
Seeing this statement reminded me of AVEX that they have no ethics on business again.
Too tired to see it.
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Picked from -> Update tips
http://monseurmonar.tripod.com/saveourbelovedmonar/
This one tells something nice.
WARCRY NETWORK
http://www.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=15&id=108&colid=8037
Oh, ok. Thanks!
I like this thread.
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wrap up around the world
=News tip=
Mainichi
h ttp://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/entertainment/news/20050913p2a00m0et014000c.html
Business.com
h ttp://www.business.com/directory/media_and_entertainment/avex_inc/
WARCRY NETWORK http://www.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=15&id=108&colid=8037
Indymedia UK http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/09/324172.html
TOPIX.NET (O-Zone News) h ttp://www.topix.net/who/o-zone
ascii art http://www.freesearcharticles.com/articles/art/ascii_art.html
=Update tips -blog=
Santos Anna (Vocal of Bon-Bon Blanco; avex artist)
http://santoslove.exblog.jp/3470562/
blogjam " Blog Archive " save mona
h ttp://www.blogjam.com/2005/09/15/save-mona/
WRT: Writer Response Theory " Blog Archive " Two Character-Art Cats (Jeremy Douglass)
http://wrt.ucr.edu/wordpress/2005/09/16/two-character-art-cats/
Save our beloved Monar! =An AA character is facing danger=
http://monseurmonar.tripod.com/saveourbelovedmonar/
Save our beloved MONAR! We do NOT need a copy!
h ttp://blog.livedoor.jp/monarmonarmonar/archives/50047604.html
Direct from the World
http://worlddirect.blogspot.com/
Amendment: Santos Anna seems not an avex artist. She seems to belong Colombia records.
Amendment
Santos Anna (Vocal of Bon-Bon Blanco)
http://santoslove.exblog.jp/3470562/
above is fun's blog, not her's
Nomatako is quite cute ^^
In any case, keep up the good work EJwriter! ^^b Thank you :)
> WRT: Writer Response Theory " Blog Archive " Two Character-Art Cats (Jeremy Douglass)
That's a pretty interesting article. The site itself is very interesting, too. Good coverage!
Japanese
http://ecweb1.avexnet.or.jp/sa4web/050930info.htm
avex announced today, no flash use in selling CDs for further madia sales and withdraw a trademark process. I want to declare a settlement of the war. Please leave a comment to anybody whom like to do it.
They keep selling Noma Neko, anyway. Guess afreaid of dead stock.
Now, this thread is in a "cease-fire" mode.
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∧＿∧ （´<_｀ ）殺人予告みーつけた
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Annoyed...
What's the current situation?
* Avex won't use the infamous flashes on the CDs they are selling anymore
* Avex is not going to register Nomaneko as a trademark anymore
* Avex will keep selling Nomaneko dolls & plushies
Correct?
Seems so.
Netizens force company to abandon copycat character
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/entertainment/news/20051001p2a00m0et010000c.html
So, is this victory or not? Is it enough?
Majority says no.
We (our part, English related) have first quiet weekend since our first move, September.
Someone should write a Wikipedia article on this
It could be done as subcategory of the already existing 2ch article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2ch
I see they mention Masahiro Tashiro on there, I don't see why Nomaneko couldn't be featured.
Of course, I am too lazy to do this myself now. ヽ(●´ε｀●)ノ
> Masahiro Tashiro
Of course that should be "Masashi Tashiro"
orz
lol death threats
kopiped from >>95
> The news at noon on Japanese TV has been reporting death threats on the CEO of Avex Records (only reports in Japanese so far) ...
Omea Mona death threats
FNN-news.com, 2005/10/04 11:54
http://www.fnn-news.com/headlines/CONN00078259.html
Excite Translation:
http://tinyurl.com/b6ljl
Nifty Translation:
http://tinyurl.com/exlpz
Realmedia for low bandwidth
http://www.fnn-news.com/realvideo/sp2005100401_G2.ram
Realmedia for high bandwidth
http://www.fnn-news.com/realvideo/sp2005100401_300.ram
Girls blogs...
Mari - diary
http://smt.blogs.com/mari_diary/2005/10/avex_gave_up_no.html
news.3yen.com
http://news.3yen.com/2005-10-04/omae-monas-death-threats/
From site...
Japan Zone
http://www.japan-zone.com/news/archives/2005_10_03.shtml
Update
Otaku Defeat Powerful Company
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/otaku/otaku-defeat-powerful-company-129405.php
sugoi sugoi
>>101
Wait, wasn't this already confirmed?
What about the sales of the Nomaneko plushies? Will Avex continue this?
Right. Not yet settled.
They said withdraw, but not yet confirmed.
Sales not stoped.
Media says so, but President was not apologised.
Seems they did a lot and and Netizens still claimed, but truth is, nothing has done.
The company will make another announcement after the weekend (means nest Tuesday). We should see it.
(´･ω･) I was in Akihabara today and there were like three 2ch-ers protesting against Nomaneko outside the train station.
There was also this -> http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5911/nomanoma5fe.jpg
Trip for the death threats has been clarified.
#antiavex
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.| Picture time! http://www.wakachan.org/os/res/11769.html
.| All pictures © Avex! Let's drink to inspiration!
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Translated kopipe:
This is Nomeneko! ∧＿∧
（ *ﾟ∀ﾟ*）
This is Monar! ∧＿∧ ／￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣
（ ´∀｀）＜ Was the permission of Omaira and Netts Japan obtained? Probably not!
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COPYRIGHT 2005 NETTS JAPAN CO., LTD. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
COPYRIGHT 2005 OMAEMONA ALMOST RESERVERD.
<丶｀∀´> Coming up next: Original content from Korea, nida nida! kekeke
↑ Question: Who are Omaira and Netts Japan? How are they relevant in this?
Netts Japan
http://www.darkstory.jp/event/050921_evt5.asp
Guess, Netts Japan (game selling company) took monar for it, as a company. avex took noma neko to it, as a company.
"Omaira, netizens usage as omaera" means "you are" or "you guys". In this case, 2ch net users.
>>110
I am not sure I understood correctly.
Netts Japan is a company who sells games and somehow included Monar in their games?
Or did they include Monar as a mascot of sorts?
And they did not change the name of Monar to something else?
And did they claim copyright to Monar?
Lastly, has this been a recent thing or did this happen a long time ago? If it happened some time before the Avex thing, whatever did 2channelers do about it?
Hm, I wanted to ask the same questions on http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/news/2729/1126769100/l10
but I got this error:
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Dunno why, I was able to write in there earlier...
Also, I just realized that "Noma" is simply an anagram of "Mona"...
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VIPPERS are pretty awesome.
Currently, they have the 375th thread on the Nomaneko/Avex issue going on:
http://ex11.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/news4vip/1128929370/
Remember that each 2ch thread only goes up to 1000 replies. That's 375,000 posts on the VIP board only about this issue. Imagine that!
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>>112
ホスト規制中 means "The host is being restricted"
means someone did something bad through the host and traffic has been restricted. Took someday to revcover.
>>111
Guess, Netts Japan did right thing for 2ch. It was a collaboration with Netts and 2ch. Press released on Sept 20th. Netts is proper, avex didi was conqueror.
>>116-117
Thanks for clearing that up!
Yesterday, avex announced and we are checking, agian.
Now, this thread is in a "cease-fire" mode, again.
It seems we won.
avex;
Stopped license;pict (9/30)
Apologized (10/14)
Announced license charge withdrawal (10/14)
Stopped selling "Noma Neko" goods at their site (10/14)
*Taito sells goods and license charge will be taken as their profit. Someone complains that amount must go to someshere for disaster healing.
Now, avex, there is no reason to be targeted.
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>>120
TOTAL VICTORY!!
I don't see an English story yet on Google News.
We still have to come up with a Wikipedia entry for this...
Okay, okay, me first then.
Info that would be needed (that I can think of from the top of my head):
When was the flash first linked from 2channel?
When did Avex first sell the OZONE CD with the flash on it?
When exactly did Avex come up with "Nomaneko"?
I guess most of these questions can be fetched from the Japanese Wikipedia entry for "Nomaneko"...
I'll just link it for now:
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%AE%E3%81%BE%E3%83%8D%E3%82%B3
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Somebody wrote a little bit about this in the MONA article on Wikipedia, maybe it can be incorporated into the 2channel article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_%28ASCII_art%29
Outsider confirmed "Nomaneko" license withdrawal was dated Oct. 3rd and accepted by officails on the same date.
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