The 3rd Genshiken Thread (192)

1 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-03 00:28 ID:Heaven [Del]

Okay, so I lied and here is a new thread WHERE WE DISCUSS EVERYTHING GENSHIKEN - BECAUSE IT'S WINTER!

And also because Episode just got subbed:

http://a.scarywater.net/solar/Genshiken%20-%2002%20%5BSolar%20%26%20Faith%5D.avi.torrent

2 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-03 00:29 ID:Heaven [Del]

> Episode


Episode 2

What I lack is concentration!

3 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-03 02:33 ID:f7VOr+vA [Del]

This is now the "BEST EPISODE EVER" thread.

BEST EPISODE EVER.

4 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-03 14:48 ID:Heaven [Del]

They should have used "awesome" instead of just "great" when Madarame (what an awesome name, btw) referred to the last episode of Kuji... fuck, what was it called? I can't remember the name of the show nor bring myself to care about it too much.

The whole anime-within-anime gives the possibility for a lot of nice storytelling tricks & treats, like the melting of the image of Kohsaka's bald head (which was just a frameless panel in the manga) into the flashback in Kujik... Kujibi...

The art somehow seemed a bit off at times, especially the facial expressions. But all in all it was a pretty good episode. Wouldn't say "BEST EVER" yet, though.

Does anyone have an idea of how much of the manga is going to be covered by the series, at least this one season?

5 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-03 15:29 ID:7jSs5g9A [Del]

Kujibiki Unbalance (Kujibiki Un-BAAAAA-lance! Wow, is that opening theme ever a great parody of generic opening themes.)

There were a whole lot of great adaptations from the manga in this episode. Kohsaka's bald head was one, and I also really liked the "You don't have a girlfriend!" scene. Kuga-P's head sticking up from the bottom of the frame in one scene also made me crack up for some reason.

> Wouldn't say "BEST EVER" yet


See, nothing's stopping you from saying BEST EVER about the NEXT ONE, too. You should never miss a chance to say BEST EVER.

6 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-03 16:06 ID:Heaven [Del]

What's the whole thing with Kuga-P about anyway?

http://www.cyril.dreamhost.com/a/src/1099492740254.png

7 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-03 16:18 ID:Heaven [Del]

Oh yeah, and in connection with Episode 2: What do you like better, the Genshiken manga or anime?

Personally, I think the manga shows a lot more life.
Also, there's more detail to conversation and story, a bigger range of the dynamics of normal mode -> sd mode and somesuch things, but those are all things that usually apply to manga when compared to their anime counterparts.

Come to think of it, the only anime that I liked better than the manga is Azumanga Daioh...

Then again, I am a huge sequential art nerd. I wonder if the common japanese otaku has any interest in foreign comics at all? Not that there would be a need to turn your attention and money away from Japan if you live there, so I wonder...

8 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-03 16:39 ID:Re+rQhJQ [Del]

There are some X-men/US comics shops in Japan but they are rare - besides, the comics are in English.

9 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-03 16:51 ID:Heaven [Del]

> besides, the comics are in English


NO excuse! I am not a native speaker myself, and there are few better ways to start and LEARN a language than to pick up some easier foreign newspaper cartoons.

10 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-03 17:26 ID:/ap14xgw [Del]

Hellboy seems somewhat popular, judging from references to it.

On the production side, it's pretty obvious from FLCL that some people at Gainax like Jamie Hewlett's work. Also, South Park. And reading Ghost in the Shell makes me think Enki Bilal was an influence on Masamune Shirow (witness especially the Russian diplomat woman). Möbius has done cooperative work with japanese artists, like _Icaro_.

11 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-03 17:28 ID:/ap14xgw [Del]

Also, the Genshiken manga has more detail, but the anime makes up for it in atmosphere, I think.

12 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-03 17:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>10

Hellboy & South Park seem to be popular because they have been accompanied with major movies that came into theatres. As for the other stuff, it seems only natural that professional artists would have a wider ranger of artistic references than your average otaku or doujinshi contributor.

Come to think of it, I just thought about how cool it would be for really underground stuff of all different sort of countries to reach the other countries somehow. I have seen some very weird stuff in one asian themed issue of STRAPAZIN, for instance. But that's probably best for some other thread.

13 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-03 18:11 ID:/ap14xgw [Del]

All the references I've seen to Hellboy predate the movie, though. And it shows up in pure fan work, too, like here: http://www.cyril.dreamhost.com/a/src/1099505408238.jpg

And yes, seconded on the underground stuff. There are far too many excellent artists who go unnoticed.

14 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-03 18:12 ID:/ap14xgw [Del]

...an interesting data point would be to know if Hellboy has been translated into Japanese or not, and what other comics might have been translated.

15 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-03 18:34 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>13

Found the issue of STRAPAZIN I was talking about:
http://www.strapazin.ch/magazin/heft54/heft_54.htm

Maybe it would be a good idea to start a new thread with the names of some great japanese underground artists, their names in kanji, links to their websites, publishers, etc.?

16 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-10 06:14 ID:56N8iPNw [Del]

>>7
The manga is better for geek references and character moments. The anime is fun, but too toned down sometimes, like the scene where Madarake explains erogames to Saki. The jokes have probably also lost some laugh value from having been read already.

17 Name: 第七聖典 2004-11-12 01:02 ID:LH6NfsHQ [Del]

18 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-12 19:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

BEST EPISODE EVER! TAKING GENSHIKEN INTO DIVINE DOMAINS!

One of the translations I really enjoyed. Too bad they didn't overtake jinmen's "What the hell, you brought a girl along!? She's gonna cramp your style, man!".

And there's a thing that begins to annoy me: the height of the subtitles. Somehow I am annoyed by them reaching so much into the actual screen and not staying at the very bottom where they belong.

19 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-13 03:24 ID:Z9o+Z/Tw [Del]

Ah yes, I really liked the deviation from the manga storyline in this episode.

I noticed the translators missed a few jokes that were in the manga translation, but nothing major.

20 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-13 08:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

Which jokes were missed? If you mean your one favorite line of Sasahara in the crowd at ComiFes, there's some interesting posts regarding this in the Genshiken thread @ Animesuki:

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=21906&goto=lastpost

21 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-13 13:11 ID:Z9o+Z/Tw [Del]

Just a few at the start. The manga translation has Sasahara saying that Kohsaka "stands out like a sore thumb" on the train, while the anime translation just says he looks excited. Also, when they arrive and Madarame says that "he wouldn't go that far", Kugayama says that Kasukabe would smack him for that were she there, while in the manga he just says that she'd make fun of the whole convention. I haven't checked if the japanese lines are the same in both, though, but at least the second one seems like they just missed the joke.

But as I said, those are minor things.

22 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-13 15:27 ID:+lswTbsg [Del]

"I sense a storm coming"
...is a reference to what?

23 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-13 15:37 ID:To5SRcrw [Del]

It's a pretty common cliché, so I doubt it's a reference to anything in particular.

24 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-13 15:38 ID:Heaven [Del]

> ..is a reference to what?


I had that thought a few times while watching the 3rd episode. I guess some things are too obscure even for the subbers themselves.

Gotta become Japanese!

25 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-13 16:17 ID:5K+tgryQ [Del]

Could it be seen as a good thing or a bad thing that the writers/artists for both the manga and anime go to such depths in terms of clichés and references to somewhat obscure bits n pieces in known anime/manga series?

Also, why the hell has animenfo.com rated it a "comedy".. its got more brains than that.

26 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-13 16:48 ID:Heaven [Del]

> Could it be seen as a good thing or a bad thing that the writers/artists for both the manga and anime go to such depths in terms of clichés and references to somewhat obscure bits n pieces in known anime/manga series?


It's a good thing since it gives the otakudom expressed by Genshiken & co authenticity and also adds a dimension of meaning to the whole thing which doesn't have to be neccessarily understood to follow the basic storyline.

Although I'd still like to know what "Kuga-P"/"Buu-chan"/"Moh-chan" refers to.

27 Name: asciic!gy8a4NxnD2 2004-11-13 17:24 ID:T8e3UFFg [Del]

kuga- is part of his name, and -pi might be from 'piggu' (cf. P-chan from Ranma 1/2) or at least seems to have similar connotations.

Jinmen's notes explained the others, and the short version is still available:
http://jinmen.pyoko.org/translation-notes.php?project=Genshiken

28 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-13 17:39 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>27

Ah, thank you very much!

29 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-18 03:43 ID:kwuF5C9w [Del]

♥ Kanako ♥

30 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-18 05:05 ID:Ktpht2VA [Del]

Nekomimi!

32 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-18 19:31 ID:Heaven [Del]

It's those damn high subtitles again. Really annoying in the scene between Ohno and Saki in Ohno's flat. Might be me being neurotic about things being in my way, but I still cannot get over it.

Anyway, Ohno is displayed as a very sweet character with a nice voice to go with, just like I figured she would be. Which gives me a chance to compliment the choice of all the other voice actors in the series, as well. All fantastic.

I am also digging the sparsely used music. Really nice & subtle, fitting the mood. Apropos mood, it was a good episode, but again I am thinking with all the rushing of the story of the manga, the mood lacks a bit, which is a pity, as I enjoyed that element a lot about the manga. But perhaps that's just natural when you converse manga to anime.

33 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-19 00:36 ID:19JnWKqw [Del]

Maybe it's just my history with 4chan, but the "Bridget and I-no" line just makes me crack up every time. Also, seconded on the voice actors, they're awesome.

The next episode will finally break the manga translation barrier! I can't wait!

34 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 05:25 ID:njW9uKSQ [Del]

I enjoyed ep 4~ I agree with >>33, I would have liked to see the Bridget and Ino costumes (^-^)
I like Ohno, her oyaji-love is funny~ And I liked her explination of why she likes cosplay. Looking forward to more~

35 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 05:26 ID:njW9uKSQ [Del]

Also, how come they're allowed to use Guilty Gear so much in it? Is Sammy sponsoring it or something? Or just allowing them to mention/show it so much?

36 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 07:06 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>35
I noticed they have mentioned Guilty Gear once or twice, but if you could, point out more references they have made? It'll strengthen your argument at least, and inform idiots like me.

37 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 07:26 ID:Heaven [Del]

There is an awful lot of references to other companies' products in Genshiken. Most are masked by just changing one letter or changing the name but staying in the same area of meaning, etc. This seems to be a common practice in both manga and anime, likely because it isn't common to bash or criticize someone else in the general public on the one side and companies aren't sue-happy for alleged copyright infringement because of mere mentioning on the other side.

38 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 12:37 ID:MVOfSHvA [Del]

Mainly I was talking about how they use a bunch of actual shots from the game. Like >>37 said, in most anime and such, names are changed slightly, and many are in Genshiken. But Guilty Gear uses it's own name, cosplay of a character from it, and a bunch of screens from the actual game (including in the opening.)

39 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-19 13:21 ID:19JnWKqw [Del]

They've gotten permission to use a number of characters and such for references. Not all of them, some references are still munged, but that's the real Haruka from Kiminozo in episode one, for instance. The credits list the characters and copyright holders.

40 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 16:19 ID:Heaven [Del]

Ep 4 was great, except for the last scene. The extended broom swinging ran so long it felt awkward.
<3<3<3 Ohno.
Omake! :D

I cringe at the thought of someone trying to translate the Tenchi Muyo/this end up/handle carefully reference for a dub. In fact, would the permissions they did get for the anime create a difficult situation for licensing, like with the multisource Super Robot Wars games?

41 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 17:12 ID:Heaven [Del]

> like with the multisource Super Robot Wars games?

Quick summary for that, please. The difficult situation, I mean.

42 Name: Quess!4/ucpf.O8c!!e4tlrJyb 2004-11-19 21:22 ID:JHn5pzIw [Del]

>>41
Super Robot Wars has characters from multiple mecha anime series.

43 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 22:03 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>42
I guessed as much... Nevermind.

44 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 22:47 ID:Heaven [Del]

And ADV are the fuckers who won't let it be published in the US.

45 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 23:16 ID:Heaven [Del]

ADV? More than one company owns the North American rights to many of the animes in SWR games. That's the whole problem. IIRC it's hard enough getting cooperation for a Japan release from all the studios without throwing the foreing licence holders into it.

46 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-19 23:48 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>44-45

Okay, understood.

47 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-21 15:24 ID:k4v3YLPg [Del]

Somehow I managed to get my dirty mits onto 1-31 of Genshiken the manga... RAW. I found it lurking around share, althought I got no clue on Japanese. Someone want me to post a page or seven onto an imageboard somewhere?

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49 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-21 17:10 ID:Heaven [Del]

Nevermind, that's exactly what you're talking about and it's on hongfire anyways. Stupid delete function.

51 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 00:58 ID:Heaven [Del]

Saki was awesome in this one.

52 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-24 02:34 ID:IbLdfjJA [Del]

I was hoping it'd get past the manga translations, but they spent a whole episode on this chapter. Good thing too, I suppose, because we got a lot of Saki action.

And the adaptation of that one 4-koma at the end was awesome too.

53 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-24 03:32 ID:txv/HBAQ [Del]

I didn't get what was the president implying to Saki.
I first thought it has to do with her and her boyfriend in-school activities, but the post-outro seems to say it has to do with Ohno? And no, I haven't read the manga.

54 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 08:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

It's implied that he has hidden cameras in the club room. So he may have witnessed Saki and Kosaka doing something, as well as Ohno changing into her cosplay outfit.

55 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 10:07 ID:Heaven [Del]

I don't know what those responsible for the artwork have thought when releasing this (please refer to http://www.cyril.dreamhost.com/a/res/837.html). It's just horrible at times and it makes me feel really bad for the author of the manga to see his beautiful work hacked up like this.

56 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-11-24 13:22 ID:aSyUFbIA [Del]

Also: Saki blushing as she was defending the otaku was awesome.

57 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-24 15:29 ID:Heaven [Del]

You can maintain your cool but you cannot control your cheeks, Saki-chan!

Laffo @ her flipping over otaku & otaple.

58 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-25 06:50 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>55
It's the nature of sequential artwork (particularly animation) that not every frame will be a masterpiece... although I agree, it has been quite rough in places.

59 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-25 08:54 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>58
Manga (or comics in general) are also sequential artwork. Of course, the sequences produced in animation always require some sort of mass production, but that's no excuse to not do a quality check and somehow I doubt that that particular process was carried out correctly in some episodes, esp. the 5th (haven't watched much further but I have heard it doesn't get better later on).

60 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-25 17:54 ID:Heaven [Del]

Face it guys, no one gives a shit about creating the illusion of human movement or even using a ruler for basic chara art (witness Madatan sitting down in ep 05) on tv. Just be happy that they're still willing to employ talented va's.
Well, that's what I want to say, but since today is the day of giving and then a day or two later raping the shit out with small pox, I will give modern anime companies my apology juice.
The Genshiken anime is still a brillant adapation anyway. For everything they fuck up, there's still something awesome like Saki's "ooooooooooooo" mini-scream.

61 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-26 14:18 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>60

Or something like Madarame citing "Nekomimi!" in Ep 4.

62 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-28 22:00 ID:SGgcqrbw [Del]

is kosaka some sort of transcendent entity existing outside the regular karmic cycle all us mudanes have to suffer through?

63 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-28 23:04 ID:Hd+ibtrw [Del]

Either that, or he's looking by the window a lot - from that room opposed to the genshiken club room, in ep1. With binoculars.

64 Name: asciic!gy8a4NxnD2 2004-11-29 10:29 ID:Ib5qJOHw [Del]

Yeah. If you have the manga raws, the colour title pages from Chapter 31 show various scenes in the club room on TV screens (including Ohno changing with the curtains shut), but maybe that's just artistic licence.

65 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-11-30 01:15 ID:7ln1FeKA [Del]

So, what's the intro a parody of?
With the shadows receeding slowly in the room.
Is this a Gundam parody?

66 Name: Anonymous 2004-11-30 04:29 ID:Heaven [Del]

It reminds me of Gunbuster if anything..........

67 Name: Wheeker!NpHAcztVYA 2004-11-30 22:07 ID:4L+TY2Bg [Del]

WAi! I love Ohno...a character I finally can relate to...sigh

68 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-11-30 22:15 ID:0YK4A7Lw [Del]

wheeker digs bald strongmen?

69 Name: Wheeker!NpHAcztVYA 2004-12-03 00:58 ID:Jn+odKXQ [Del]

maybe I do maybe I dont....tho I wish my boobs were bigger than i could totally be her.

70 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-07 11:42 ID:Heaven [Del]

Ohno-tan age

71 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-08 22:59 ID:jUwWfr5A [Del]

OMG age like usual for new fansubbed episode
The extra wallscroll gag at the end was perfect.

72 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-08 23:59 ID:VjmMwF0g [Del]

I liked the Puyo Puyo bit better, myself.

Can't help feeling sorry for Saki-san though. Hopefully, as the post-credit bit hints, she'll at least learn to love the pain.

73 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-12-09 01:10 ID:/eeslJIQ [Del]

> It's amazing that he'd last for 30 minutes!

I lol'd. Also, at the "IMOUTO!?" bit.

74 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 01:50 ID:CHo3RNnw [Del]

One thing:
the voiceover guy says Saki never played a game again. But the outro shows something different.
Bad translation, bad scripting or comedic lie?

I was surprised at Sasahara, for all his sister bashing, he actually stood for his sister against Saki. And his sentence was very mature, "Please do not hit others for things I have brought on by myself" or some such.

75 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-12-09 02:07 ID:/eeslJIQ [Del]

The ending was probably just meant to be from when she was practicing.

76 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 03:45 ID:CHo3RNnw [Del]

But up to now, all the endings have been following the story sequence.
story -> ending/outro -> post ending -> preview.

77 Name: asciic!gy8a4NxnD2 2004-12-09 08:52 ID:RYKN6ESA [Del]

ep2 had a scene from the episode (kissing), so it's not unprecedented. But Kugayama and Tanaka weren't there when she was first practicing... maybe it was implying she never played games with Kosaka again?

78 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 09:29 ID:Heaven [Del]

> "IMOUTO!?" bit.

what?

Also: Great episode. It's just too bad that the art just won't improve.

79 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 09:39 ID:VjmMwF0g [Del]

Ep 7 (just out): Kuchiki-san makes my eyes bleed. I mean, most of the lesser characters are badly drawn, but he's not even badly drawn in a decent way like Kugayama. He looks like he crashed in from Family Guy or something.

80 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 09:40 ID:Heaven [Del]

> But up to now, all the endings have been following the story sequence.

I wouldn't give such formal considerations too much credit. The series hasn't been very consisent with that. For instance, episodes 4 & 5 didn't have any opening scenes before the opening sequence & the theme.

I am thinking that the voice-over guy is just used to create some sort of more epic feel to certain story elements, and since that is always done in an (at least partial) ironic way, I wouldn't rely too much on it as some sort of reliable source.

81 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 09:41 ID:Heaven [Del]

AAAAAAAAAARGH

> Affected anime series by Media Factory Inc.
> The decision to no longer list any anime series (present and
> future) of Media Factory Inc. currently affects these series:
>
> * Genshiken (including Kujibiki Unbalance)

82 Post deleted by user.

83 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 10:09 ID:VjmMwF0g [Del]

Big deal, you have to check another website. Unless Solar drops it.

84 Name: 81 2004-12-09 10:12 ID:Heaven [Del]

> Unless Solar drops it.

Which is exactly what I am fearing.

85 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 13:41 ID:CHo3RNnw [Del]

>...the art just won't improve.

I think that for a "real life" anime the art doesn't have to be impressive. It's even better as it shifts the emphasis on the story rather than the pretty pictures. The parts where the art has to be real good should be the Kujibiki Unbalance segments, IMO.
Actually, I didn't think the art was bad in ep6. And earlier? The only ep that comes in mind is ep5 [IIRC] where I thought Masarame (sp?) was drawn sloppily, but he wasn't even one of the characters talking. he was a side character in that scene.
Real life isn't always pretty so I wouldn't be surprised if this was intentional, to not try to "beautify" the anime.

86 Name: !WAHa.06x36 2004-12-09 13:55 ID:U+ad41xg [Del]

>>79

He looks exactly like he looks in the manga. He's supposed to be more crudely drawn than the other characters.

87 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 14:01 ID:Heaven [Del]

> I think that for a "real life" anime the art doesn't have to be impressive.

But it shouldn't be a sub-par, inconsistent, anamotical disaster like it has been for some episodes now, either. Hands being smaller than faces, mouth position wandering within the face without reason, perspectives wrong... &c

88 Post deleted by user.

89 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 14:35 ID:CHo3RNnw [Del]

Eh?
Hands are smaller than faces, you know. ^^;

90 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 14:43 ID:Heaven [Del]

you know if your hand is bigger than your face you have cancer

91 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 16:04 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>89-90

Please study anatomy!

92 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 16:08 ID:Heaven [Del]

Also, put your own hand on your face. From wrist to middle finger, it should exactly go from chin to the part of your forehead where your scalp hair begins.

93 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 16:47 ID:Heaven [Del]

Mine's approximately 3/4 of an inch shorter.

Also, 3 inches narrower.

94 Name: Sling!myL1/SLing 2004-12-09 17:41 ID:JPy3gCqA [Del]

wtf? Everybody is Random Anime Otaku??

95 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 17:41 ID:JPy3gCqA [Del]

test

96 Post deleted by user.

97 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 17:52 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>96

http://4-ch.net/req/kareha.pl/1101590839

Also, custom Anonymous names have been 2ch and world2ch features LONG before 4chan ever came around.

98 Name: FUCK 2004-12-09 22:07 ID:Heaven [Del]

from solar-fansubs.org

As some you might be already aware, Animesuki has received a notice from Mediafactory, Inc. It is a Japanese company which holds copyright to some of the series we've been subbing (Genshiken and Rahxephon). They requested Animesuki to remove the links to the series mentioned.
While we haven't received such a letter so far, it's clear that the company doesn't want their work distributed. So far fansubbers have been operating on a kind of unwritten agreement with the Japanese companies: sub the series, but only until it's licensed. However, this seems to be no longer the case, at least with Mediafactory. Thus we're removing our releases of Genshiken and Rahxephon OVA from BitTorrent and XDCC bots and ask you to stop distribution as well.

99 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 22:59 ID:Heaven [Del]

>>98

also see : http://www.solar-fansubs.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=119&st=0&#entry885

Anime-Faith still has it listed, though: http://www.anime-faith.com/

Man, this is pissing me off.

100 Name: Random Anime Otaku 2004-12-09 23:12 ID:Heaven [Del]

Trying to get my hands on some raws for 8 & 9. If my Japanese 301 skills are sufficient to acquire any significant comprehension of the episodes, I'll share it here. Or someone who actually knows the language can beat me to the punch.

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