WHY is this BBS so unlively compared to 2ch? (102)

1 Name: schoolboy 2005-09-18 08:14 ID:ysuDlYYt

It's like there's barely anyone around on this site. Say Hi if anyone is here.

53 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 02:59 ID:AV9pMM92

>>52 The code is different, and we can go beyond 1000 in threads. I think that is the only difference. Oh and we speak english.

54 Name: fusianasan 2005-10-10 06:54 ID:Heaven

>>52
Whatever you say, just don't demand apology & compensations from us!

55 Name: alalala (i am a terrorist)!Osew1OkDUo 2005-10-10 17:12 ID:t7D4KfdZ

>>54
i dont demand anything and i dont care.
i think it is good that there is a english speaking 2channel.
>>53
lol the code is different? so fucking what? it looks "exactly" the same and operates almost exactly the same.

People who doesnt know about 2channel who visit this forum is like: WTF is this shit.. it looks like shit, i dont get the system ect, etc.. They dont bother looking in the "you new to this forum".. who does?

look at shitty GAIA.. why do you think it's so popular?
Yes, beacuse it is somewhat original in layout, but still the same in forum design. "and probobly beacuse there are a shitload of kids who think it's cute and all".

56 Name: 54 2005-10-10 17:16 ID:Heaven

alalala (i am a terrorist)!Osew1OkDUo is DQN

57 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 17:25 ID:Bv95l2Lm

PHP forum design sucks. I am glad the 2ch design is coming to the West.

58 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 18:00 ID:Heaven

>>55

>WTF is this shit.. it looks like shit, i dont get the system ect, etc

I guess the appearance is good in that it keeps out kids and people who aren't open to trying new things (close-minded people). What's the use of a forum if you just attract hundreds of little 10yr kids?

59 Name: alalala (i am a terrorist)!Osew1OkDUo 2005-10-10 18:03 ID:t7D4KfdZ

>>56
people like you contribute to why this bbs is so unlively compared to 2ch... (well, almost)
People just dont dare to write down what they think beacuse they are afraid someone like you just pop up and talk shit about them. (referring to noobs reading this bbs).
Even if this is a anonymous driven bbs.. it's still in the mind and people just dont want to be talked down to.
why am i a DQN? beacuse i have my own opinion?

how old are you anyway?
If you think you have something to say.. say it properly.
Dont waste good space. Whatver.. i just should write NO U next time.

Oh, and alalala is the sound a suicide bomer makes just before he runs and explodes his target (and himself)

>>57
Dont get me wrong, I am glad too.

60 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 18:06 ID:Heaven

>>59 is an INTERNET BADASS with a CONTROVERSIAL NAME!!!

61 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 18:11 ID:t7D4KfdZ

>>>60

Alright.. if i am scaring you with my Tripcode.. i will stop and be an anonymous.

>What's the use of a forum if you just attract hundreds of little 10yr kids?

what? So what youre telling me that there is no use when a forum has 10 year old kids??

I Can bet you 2channel has 9 Year old kids.. that doesn't matter...What matter is discussion.
And if it takes 10 year old kids to start one.. who the fuck cares.. Your age doesn't display when you write anyway.

62 Name: 54 2005-10-10 18:18 ID:Heaven

> Even if this is a anonymous driven bbs.. it's still in the mind and people just dont want to be talked down to.

People will live, people will learn.
And if they don't, that's fine, too.

> why am i a DQN? beacuse i have my own opinion?

No, because your opinion is incoherent.
This forum being rather small as of yet does not have anything to do with originality.
And this concept is in fact very original, at least to the western part of the internet.
And your example for originality (GAIA) is dumb. So they added some fancy graphical effects to their custom phpBB version. Whoopdeedoo, how is that original? Wait, don't answer that.
It doesn't matter anyway.
Also, your spelling sucks.

63 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 18:29 ID:t7D4KfdZ

>>62
my spelling sucks?
i write in 4 languages.. and english isn't my best.
im not even going to bother asking WHO THE FUCK CARES.

>And this concept is in fact very original, at least to the western part of the internet.

lol western part of the internet.
thank you, that made me lol seriously.

64 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 18:33 ID:Heaven

>>63
Well, it's true. 2channel type forums are pretty much only known to people from Japan, Taiwan, etc., i.e. people from eastern countries. It makes sense to generally refer to these people online as "the eastern part of the internet", just as it makes sense to classify the mostly English speaking population of the internet as "the western part of the internet".

65 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 18:36 ID:AV9pMM92

Gaia is the worst internet community ever.

By western part he means English speaking. And there is a western part of the internet, it's all of the servers hosting websites in the western hemisphere.

66 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 18:40 ID:AV9pMM92

If you think this place is unoriginal and needs to be improved please voice your idea on how you think it could be better.

67 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 18:47 ID:t7D4KfdZ

>>64
>>65
I know what he meant.. but it was just fun to read it as an standalone sentence.

>And your example for originality (GAIA) is dumb. So they added some fancy graphical effects to their custom phpBB version. Whoopdeedoo, how is that original?

Not only that but you can buy stuff, trade? it has a nice interface and it is very easy to understand right away.
It's just like a minigame.

>>66
Yes, i think it is very unoriginal.. But what forum isn't?
The thing is.. users who dont know about 2channel +85% of the internets forum browsers, look at this site as a kind of shitty 1996/windows 95 forum (it looks like it)..

but for heavens sake dont change anything! Im just saying the first impression might scare noobs/good posters away.
Im all good with this as i stated in my first post.

68 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 19:01 ID:Heaven

I don't really see a problem with people getting driven off because 4-ch does not "look pretty" or whatever.

But it would be cool to be able to customize 4-ch more. Something that 2channel achieves with its many custom browsers (www.monazilla.org). 4-ch doesn't have enough users as of now to support the development of such a tool and even if it would get done it's unlikely newbies would get attracted through it.

The best thing to do, about helping 4-ch right now, is to contribute good posts, get involved and spread the word a bit here and there if it's appropriate.

69 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 19:08 ID:2smMMd2a

>>Gaia is the worst internet community ever.

As a Gaia semi-regular, I can confirm this.

70 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-10 20:15 ID:Heaven

Gaia is like neopets where YOU ARE THE PET

71 Name: kage-tan!YtLk0e6tn2 2005-10-11 09:45 ID:F98NAxpa

Heh..?
2ch-type boards do not look pretty?
That is completely and utterly up to the board admin. It's easy to make pretty looking shells for the system. it won't have "nifty" stuff like your own doll like gaia or so.. But seriously..
Sky's the limit, folks.

http://www.csszengarden.com/

I was under the impression 2ch-type boards tended to look like here at 4-ch and 2ch because crude design loads way quicker, is easier to maintain, can conform to standards easier, more difficult to break - plus that it's way easier and quicker to whip up.
Besides, it has a more friendly charisma than most highly polished and designed sites. Makes it feel more like it really is the contents that matters.
Not that I wouldn't complain about prettier boards. Just saying, this isn't bad at all. It makes it quick and easy to read. Which is what matters.

72 Name: kage-tan!YtLk0e6tn2 2005-10-11 09:49 ID:F98NAxpa

i probably also should add, that out of all the various board looks, i prefer the default one.

73 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 11:44 ID:ZRF+hOoJ

Who cares if this place is 'original' or not, 'pretty' or not. Logic overruling vanity is the general idea here, ne?
4-ch is just not that well known yet. It will attract people over time.

>>68
"The best thing to do, about helping 4-ch right now, is to contribute good posts, get involved and spread the word a bit here and there if it's appropriate."
I'll second that.

74 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 11:44 ID:ZRF+hOoJ

Who cares if this place is 'original' or not, 'pretty' or not. Logic overruling vanity is the general idea here, ne?
4-ch is just not that well known yet. It will attract people over time.

>>68
"The best thing to do, about helping 4-ch right now, is to contribute good posts, get involved and spread the word a bit here and there if it's appropriate."
I'll second that.

75 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 11:48 ID:ZdTf5UVO

>>69
Why do you still post there? What draws you to an (admittedly) poor community?

>>67
To a certain extent, simple design can be a good limiting concept. If a bunch of people base their first impressions on shiny stuff (or lack thereof), does 4-ch really want them as users? Sure, their tastes and perspecitive will change, and at some point they may become a mature, good poster - but does 4-ch have to be their testing-ground?

76 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 12:37 ID:t7D4KfdZ

>I don't really see a problem with people getting driven off because 4-ch does not "look pretty" or whatever.

you dont? what about the problem of to few posters (A.K.A 4chan)?
There should not be any "LIMITING" or "SCARE AWAY" artifacts in a openminded and big BBS.

>>75

>If a bunch of people base their first impressions on shiny stuff (or lack thereof), does 4-ch really want them as users?

well yes, 4chan wants them as users. or should i say NEED "them". more people = more discussion

right now, 4chan is a underground community for 4chan/2chan lovers.. let's not keep it that way.

If there is nothing wrong with people who like simplistic design, "2channel ripoff", there should be no problem with people who likes design and "original" stuff.

77 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 13:00 ID:Heaven

>>76

4-ch is not 4chan. 2chan is not 2channel.

78 Name: lurk more 2005-10-11 16:44 ID:t7D4KfdZ

>>77

lurk more

79 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 16:47 ID:Heaven

>>78
I am not >>77 but your statement in >>76 does sound like you're really confused about the whole name issue.

80 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 17:17 ID:t7D4KfdZ

>>79
well, im not.
i know the difference between futaba/2chan & 2channel ect.
+99% of 4-ch browsers know about it.

>>77
it doesnt matter, stay on the subject.

what does matter is that 4-ch hasn't grown so much (i do not know statistics) but it still feels very slow.
So whats the problem here? There are so many people out there who knows about 2channel & love it, yet nobody seems to bother comming here.

81 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 17:22 ID:Heaven

>>80
People who do know about 2channel are either a) Japanese (and thus content with 2channel itself) or b) "Westerners". The latter are either content with their ten thousand already existing forums, usenet, IRC, etc. as forms of communication. I figure it'd be hard to "convert" them all in a short ammount of time. Also, while many may have heard about 2channel, 4-ch is a more obscure site in the www. And then there's also that fragmentation of possible userbase with world4ch, although I suspect there's quite a lot of us who visit both 4-ch and world4ch.

tl;dr: I think it just takes time. 4-ch has grown, although it's hardly noticable. Patience is probably the key, there doesn't seem to be a magical remedy for the feeling of slowness.

82 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 17:38 ID:Heaven

>>76
Since when does 4chan have too few posters? What is your definition of 'too few'? Sure, it isn't Gaia or hueg like Gaia but it has many interesting, intelligent users (see /n/, /p/,&c).

Based on >>80, maybe you should be the one to stay on topic given that you brought up 4chan, which has very little to do with this thread...

83 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 17:44 ID:t7D4KfdZ

>>82
do you even bother to read?

84 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 17:49 ID:t7D4KfdZ

Ok.. before anyone else feels special and needs to point out shit..

IM SORRY. I MISSPELLED 4-CH..
i meant 4-ch not 4chan or 4channel.
the same goes with 2chan/futaba & 2channel..

85 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-11 17:52 ID:Heaven

>>76-84 is a fine example of serious internet business!

86 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-15 14:47 ID:Heaven

$10 says that >>85 is lolocaust

87 Name: celteen 2005-10-16 15:53 ID:Heaven

hi...

needs to be advertised more.

88 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-16 16:22 ID:Heaven

>>86
What gave me away?

89 Name: LOLOCAUST 2005-10-16 21:38 ID:Heaven

hi I'm lolocaust 2 guyz

90 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-16 22:56 ID:Bv95l2Lm

>>88
Your sarcastic yet snarkless tone, which I can't pin down exactly but is highly evident.

91 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-16 22:56 ID:Heaven

>>90
My ears are burning!

92 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-26 02:05 ID:phPuPTCS

>>52 teh emo!!!11!1

93 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-26 04:32 ID:Heaven

>>92
<copy-paste "how to use sage" goes here>

94 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-26 05:36 ID:Heaven

>>90,91
More liek sarcaustic amirite?

95 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-27 04:32 ID:Y2JQIeJw

I go to both 4-ch and world4ch, and on the surface it doesn't look like there's much difference in the posting rates. Is association with 4chan should give world4ch much more activity than it's seeing at least more compared to 4-ch. I think 4chan might be hindering world4ch's growth. I often find starting threads in /a with the intent of lengthy discussion while apparently ignoring the limitations of the image board format, throwing in an image as an afterthought. Of course, it barely lasts a day before it can't be bumped anymore and slips into oblivion. Had it been posted to the disscussion board, it would have had a chance to develop and grow, adding more attention and activity to the board.

96 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-10-27 14:25 ID:Heaven

>>95

My thoughts exactly. /b/-tards also do it. They are pretty dumb.

97 Name: Anonymous-san!Co7ArOTpLQ 2005-11-06 09:45 ID:Heaven

>>96

I know exactly what you mean. I suggested one day that maybe /b/ should have just been redirected to /vip/ for a day so people will get used to the idea of posting on a 2ch system; but unfortunately I get the feeling that most of them are there because they just want to make retarded image macros with mspaint and try to become internet celebrities. I do want world4ch to grow, however, because I think that it deserves to have more posters. The interesting thing to note is that almost all the posters who go there "get" the system due to the 4chan influence on the culture. I'll admit that if I'd found world4ch without knowing a thing about 4chan or 2ch it would have daunted me, not to mention the fact that I only found out about 2ch and the Japanese side of the internet through the time I've spent at 4chan. lol extra green onion pls im a vetran

98 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-11-10 15:35 ID:Y2JQIeJw

>almost all the posters who go there "get" the system due to the 4chan influence on the culture.

I'm not sure what you mean by a 4chan influence affecting acceptance of a certain format.

99 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-11-10 19:04 ID:Heaven

they already know what "sage" does?

100 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-11-10 19:54 ID:Heaven

100get!

101 Name: Random Anonymous 2005-11-10 21:11 ID:trCSAnI9

>>99
They know what it is, but I'll be damned if they know how to use it correctly.

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